Talk:Fig sign

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Use f*cking regions not countries u nazis

Ukraine being next to Turkey while Belarus has it's Own and different from others meaning. Shiteaters, this sign is an equivalent to showing a middle finger in all slavic cultures. This article should be split apart, its current state is an absurd. 2001:718:2:903:86DB:345D:72D1:CC03 (talk) 14:49, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bulgaria

I've been livin' in Bulgaria for my whole life and I am not aware of this hand sign being associated with any of the contexts or ways mentioned in the article. It's possible it's used in this context in some parts of the country, but personally I've never seen it. I can't tell with certainty whether this is inaccuracy or not, but this is the first time I've read about it.

I would say that the Italian is probably the closest matching description, here the hand gesture also signifies female genitalia, but the name however is different. Here it is known as "showing/making the birdie", or sometimes simply called "the birdie". This may (or may not) be in part due to the similarity between the Bulgarian word for "Birdie" - "Птиче" (pronounced pti-che) and "Пиче" (pronounced pi-che) - which is mainly a slang for female genitalia.

It can also somewhat resemble "holding a small bird in your hand" and might've been used as a "child friendly" version to conceal/replace the more vulgar context with more innocent one, so perhaps that's another hypothesis.

The first time I ever saw the sign was when I was still a small child, which was back in the 80's during the last years of the soviet regime. Since then the use and popularity of the gesture has declined, whether it's discontinued tho would be hard to say.

Regarding the meaning of the gesture itself, it was explained to me that it was meant to symbolize a female genital organ and that it was considered rude or the least inappropriate to use in public, similarly to showing someone the middle finger.

On a side note, while I wouldn't say that the two gestures are "exact counterparts", in the sense that you would use them interchangeably due to the slightly different context, I think I've also seen people, ironically using one in response to being show the other hand gesture. --Metal Phantom (talk) 18:48, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Eastern Culture

This gesture is also known in Asia and sometimes features on sculptures. I do not know the meaning or origin but think it would be a useful addition once more is known. I have trouble searching for information as I don't know how to describe this gesture easily. --Moaltmann (talk) 15:52, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Rename

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The result of the move request was: Moved to Fig sign Mike Cline (talk) 14:41, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dulya → Fig sign – English term required. This gesture is international, not purely Russian. - Altenmann >t 08:52, 19 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support - per WP:UE. - M0rphzone (talk) 22:54, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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German "Feigenhand"

THis is one of the very few cases, where the german wiki appears to be far better that its english pendant.--78.52.214.233 (talk) 03:05, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Czechia - unsubstantiated claim

Being native Czech and having lived in the country for 50 yrs, I have never come across it being used the way the article currently describes (not obscene sign for taking a kid's nose - WTF ??). If ever used, the understanding is clearly the common range between refusal and f*k you. Best leave out Czech Republic from that paragraph and even better make some probe into that claim regarding other countries. (I see an objection has been voiced from Bulgaria a year ago...) Yak-indolog (talk) 00:32, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]