Talk:Firestar's Quest

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Former good article nomineeFirestar's Quest was a Language and literature good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
August 29, 2008Good article nomineeNot listed
April 10, 2009Good article nomineeNot listed
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on March 31, 2008.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ...that Firestar's Quest, a book in the Warriors fantasy novel series, has been translated into Russian?
Current status: Former good article nominee

Bad info[edit]

this article doesn't contain very good information about the book

Why do you say that? Shrewpelt (talk) 21:10, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I guess so.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.21.119.236 (talk) 18:21, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Article title[edit]

Shouldn't this article be located at Firestar's Quest? From what I can tell, other books in the series are titled as such if no disambiguation is needed; were it needed, however, wouldn't the title be Firestar's Quest (Warriors)? María (habla conmigo) 17:57, 25 August 2008 (UTC) I agree — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.76.86.7 (talk) 21:50, 13 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

Right now, while this article is decently written for what it contains, it is little more than a very good start-class page and certainly not yet ready for Good Article status. Some suggestions for future improvement would be:

  • Make the article more accessible to readers unfamiliar with the series universe. Right now the article expects you to jump right in to the jargon and characters with no introduction. My favorite way of getting feedback on accessibility is to print the article off and have a friend who is not familiar with the book read it. Any points that they have questions on need to be described in more detail.
  • Similarly, add a characters section. Even if there is a master character list for the franchise, each novel must have a self-sufficient character list describing the roles of the major characters in the novel.
  • The plot summary is rather incomplete at present. Brevity in plot summaries is better than excessive retelling, but the current summary is too brief to be useful to non-readers of the book.

Good luck improving the article, don't be discouraged, and feel free to renominate it once you've expanded these sections. If you have any questions on the review, please ask for clarification on my talk page. --erachima talk 02:24, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Firestar's Quest/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

I am failing this article because almost every source is unreliable. I would suggest that you spend some time familiarizing yourself with our reliable sources policy and then beginning your search for sources anew. Two places I would check: Google News and Lexis Nexis. A good local library will have access to Lexis Nexis.

  • This site does not discuss the release or promotion of the book. It is not a secondary source, as it seems to be an actual advertisement for the book. This is not a reliable source, which should be fact-checked and removed from the promotion of the book. We want to present as objective a view of the book as possible.
  • This source does not support the statement that the book was successful. More seriously, it is not a reliable source because it is a promotional site designed by the publisher, not a third-party source. This site should not be used to source any part of the article, yet it is used many times throughout the article.
  • This source does not support that the book has received good critical reviews. Barnes and Noble is a bookstore - it is therefore a commercial website. It does not list every review that a book has received or even a representative cross-section. To establish that the book received positive reviews, you need to either cite a review which states that fact or you need to amass a group of citations to several positive reviews.
  • This source is unreliable because it is a chat transcript. It is not edited or fact-checked. It is "published" by an unreliable site. I cannot even find basic information on the site about who runs it.
  • You cannot source B&N for reviews. You need to find the original publication and cite that. Usually B&N only publishes excerpts, so you are probably missing part of the review.
  • This is a blog and therefore not a reliable source. You might be able to make an argument to include it under WP:SPS, but considering the problems with the other sources in this article, I would advise you to exclude this.
  • The bulk of this article is plot summary and character description. I would dispense with the character list, integrating the essentials into the plot summary.

I hope these suggestions are helpful. I recently wrote a featured article on Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell, a contemporary novel, using only newspaper stories and websites. While there are probably more articles on that particular book than on this one, it might give you a good idea regarding the kinds of sources we would expect in an article like this. Awadewit (talk) 23:25, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unneeded Characters Section[edit]

The characters listed in the characters section have already been listed in the Warriors list of characters page, and therefore isn't needed in this article. We can move the information given here over to the characters page in the SkyClan section, mentioning Firestar's Quest as a reference to it, but other than that, it needs to be removed altogether. §ροττεδςταr(Talk|Contribs) 22:36, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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