Talk:Flag of Ohio/GA1

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GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: MrWooHoo (talk · contribs) 19:35, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Seems like a great article! Will begin the review ASAP! Brandon (MrWooHoo)Talk to Brandon! 19:35, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! By the way, there's currently a CS1 citation error in the article, but according to Help:CS1 errors#chapter ignored, it's caused by a bug in {{cite conference}} and a fix has been proposed. Also, as I wrote this article, I was unsure whether to keep the gubernatorial flag section in this article or move it to Seal of Ohio. Most gubernatorial flags are located in state flag articles; on the other hand, Ohio's is based on the state seal and completely unrelated to the civil flag. I'm planning to nominate Seal of Ohio once I get around to adding a few more variations, so any feedback you have regarding the gubernatorial flag will be useful either way. – Minh Nguyễn 💬 21:11, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Pre-Review Notes[edit]

I do my review in a style with a "main review" in a table, and 2 side reviews. (a prose and a source) Here is a good example.

Review[edit]

Rate Attribute Review Comment
1. Well-written:
1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct. All corrections changed!
1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation. All changes done.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline. All changes done.
2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose). There are in-line citations for all information in the article.
2c. it contains no original research. Again, all info is sourced.
3. Broad in its coverage:
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic. Main aspects are covered for the Flag of Ohio.
3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style). No unnecessary off-topic that I've seen.
4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each. Great job with following the NPOV policy.
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute. No major edit wars/arguments. Not recent (obviously)
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content. No more issues with pictures.
6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions. All images relevant to the Flag of Ohio.
7. Overall assessment. All changes done! Great job with the article! Brandon (MrWooHoo)Talk to Brandon! 16:15, 31 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Prose Review[edit]

Note: If you have changed the sentence that needed to be corrected, press Enter and start off the line with ::, then use checkY or  Done If the change was only partially done use checkY, and ☒N or  Not done if the change could not occur. (If you would explain why, I would be greatly appreciated :P) To see code, go to edit source and copy the code.

  • Lead
Like I said in the item 1b of the table, could you expand it for a more in-depth summary of the "usage" and "design" sections?
 Done – Minh Nguyễn 💬 04:21, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • History
Seems good. No grammar issues.
  • Usage

"...however, Ohio's takes on special importance due to the flag's irregular shape."

Add procedure after Ohio's so it makes the sentence more clear.
 Done – Minh Nguyễn 💬 01:48, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Flag of the Governor
I think the part about the gubernational flag is fine, and you should keep it. No issues with it.

 Done After you raised the question about the flag's copyright status in 6a above, I did a bit more research and ended up both rewriting the section and redrawing the image! It turns out the design was adopted in 1905 and is therefore out of copyright. I redrew the flag based on the statute and swapped in a different reproduction of the state coat of arms. The previous coat of arms came from the "Artist's Version" of the seal that state agencies only use decoratively; the new one is consistent with the seal that the Governor's office uses everywhere (including on their website).

Unfortunately, the Governor's flag is obscure enough that I haven't found any real-life photos to compare it with, so it's based on just the statute and Smith (1975). The original image was almost certainly based on the crude reproduction at [1], which was probably influenced by the Artist's Version shown prominently in the infobox in Ohio. (Wikipedia editors really like the colorful Artist's Version and have reverted any attempt to use the black-and-white official seal in that infobox.)

I realize GA nominees aren't supposed to be changing that much, but I hope you'll excuse the changes as worthwhile improvements. I don't expect there to be further overhauls in the near future. :^)

– Minh Nguyễn 💬 10:41, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Great job maintaining the prose of this article!

Source Review[edit]

  • No issues that I've seen that were major besides the CS1 you mentioned, which can't be fixed at the moment. Great job with the sources. Brandon (MrWooHoo)Talk to Brandon! 18:13, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]