Talk:Francis Turretin

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On 3 March 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from François Turrettini to Francis Turretin. The result of the discussion was moved.

Protest[edit]

I protest the reversion of this article to the form it was in before I made some additions and corrections.

It's not true that Francis Turretin is "mostly forgotten." Although this may have been true for many years, his works are increasingly sought by publishers since his magnum opus was republished in 1992. New English translations are in the works for his most important writings, and these are in high demand. Reformed theology is increasing in popularity in general, and many are finding Turretin very helpful in understanding the truth and combatting errors that have reappeard in the churches in our day.

Also, the ending on the first paragraph makes it sound like his Elenctic Theology ceased to be considered a standard after the publication of Charles Hodge's Systematic Theology. That is not the case. More precisely, Princeton Seminary, where Hodge taught theolgy, switched from Turretin's volumes to Hodge's volumes as a primary textbook.

--Fraasrd

With edits saying people are going to hell and beginning the edit here with the "heretical" label - the reversion was justified --Trödel 09:29, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed about the non-neutral edits. However, Fraasrd has a good point about Hodge v. Turretin, and his post-reversion edit seems fine. Of course, one would need a reliable source to support the claim that T.'s works are "in high demand." --Fl e x (talk|contribs) 13:37, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good, Agree re Turretin - that is why I left it there. Thoug as you say we do need a source. --Trödel 17:01, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 3 March 2022[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Per WP:COMMONNAME. Colin M (talk) 21:15, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

François Turrettini → Francis Turretin – Per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:ENGLISH. This page was moved without discussion in 2018. But "Francis Turretin" is by far the more common name, as indicated by Google Ngram. Brill Publishers has recently published Francis Turretin (1623–87) and the Reformed Tradition (2020). St Anselm (talk) 22:21, 3 March 2022 (UTC)— Relisting. Turnagra (talk) 08:17, 1 April 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. 🐶 EpicPupper ^{(he/him | talk)} 07:11, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. He is the son of Bénédict Turrettini and the father of Jean-Alphonse Turrettini, as well as the ancestor of François Turrettini, Theodore Turrettini, and Maurice Turrettini whose pages should then all be also moved. The family is of Italian origin, and kept its name when it settled in the French-speaking Geneva in the 16th century. All its notable members are listed as « Turrettini » in the Historical Dictionary of Switzerland: [1]. --Sapphorain (talk) 15:37, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"These other pages would also have to be moved" is a non-argument. WP:COMMONNAME trumps consistency between family members: e.g. Cassius Marcellus Clay Sr. and Muhammad Ali. St Anselm (talk) 15:55, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support per WP:COMMONNAME. Rreagan007 (talk) 18:52, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Like John Calvin, he has a distinct English name. Srnec (talk) 02:27, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.