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Can anyone find any evidence/citation of his remians being entombed in Nintendo's headquarters? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.175.93.30 (talk) 21:46, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

                                                      NINTENDO  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.200.190.218 (talk) 15:33, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sources used for GA nomination.

The following books were read online :

The Story of Nintendo : https://books.google.be/books?id=M-pGHGDm5a4C&redir_esc=y (Google Books)

Game Over, Press Start to Continue: How Nintendo Conquered the World : https://archive.org/details/0966961706/mode/2up Maxime12346

Nintendo: The Company and Its Founders : https://archive.org/details/nintendocompanyi0000fire/mode/2up

(talk) 19:56, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

Unsuccessful. joeyquism (talk) 22:23, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Fusajiro Yamauchi/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: DanganMachin (talk · contribs) 09:51, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator: Maxime12346 (talk · contribs) 09:51, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: NatwonTSG2 (talk · contribs) 19:52, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @DanganMachin I decided to review this article because it looks pretty simple and easy so. This article seems a handful of fixes to be addressed.

Review

Lead

For the infobox, not much other than the fact that you're unable find sources for his unnamed daughter and the cause of his death. ~~I think this source might help a bit.~~
In the first sentence, you could change who founded Yamauchi Nintendo, the company now known as Nintendo into who founded Yamauchi Nintendo, later known as Nintendo.

Early life

Shouldn't this section's title be renamed into Early life.
P2: Could this section be one entire paragraph and ~~you could removed the additional reference there.~~

**Yamauchi Fusajirô Shôten or Yamauchi Nintendo**
Location	Problem
P3 S4	A typo for Fusajiro
P5 S2	At the end of the sentence, you seem to put two periods between a quote mark so remove the second one.
P5 S3	the date to the year. Also removed such of between website and Watada.
P5 S5	You forget to put a period at the end of the sentence.
P6 S1	Koppaï Zei and Karuta Zei shouldn't be quoted so remove the quote marks
P6 S2	Peroid at the end of the sentence.
P7 S1	removed even because it kinda made the sentence like a direct quote.
P8 S1	unless you're making a direct quote, removed yet again.

Personal details

S1: With no son into Without a son
S4: change claim into claimed

Fixs.

Thank you for reviewing my article !

Here are the fixs I made :

Lead

According to Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources NNDB is a deprecated source and shouldn't be used. So I consider it done.

Sentence Done.

Early Life

Before Nintendo -> Early Life Done.

One paragraph + reference. I have fused the first two paragraphs but I don't see what reference you are talking about. Done.

Yamauchi Fusajirô Shôten or Yamauchi Nintendo

Typo fixed. Done.

Point added. Done.

removed even Done.

removed yet again Done.

Personal details

S1 Done.

S4 Done.

DanganMachin (talk) 17:09, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@NatwonTSG2 I have finished to adress the fixs you said the article needed. (: Could you please put the follow-up review in the form of a table if possible ? Thank you for your time. DanganMachin (talk) 17:24, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@DanganMachin after learning some of my fixes for my other article which I'm working on, I decided to take one look of this article and realized that many fixes still need to be address so I would recommend to request this article at the Guild of Copy Editors. NatwonTSG2 (talk) 18:00, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Since this review doesn't seem to be going anywhere, I'm going to quick fail this article, as it's already been listed at GOCE for further improvement. Best of luck with your further writing, and hopefully we'll see this back at GAN in an improved state. joeyquism (talk) 22:23, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by reviewer, closed by AirshipJungleman29 talk 10:04, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that before founding Nintendo, Fusajiro Yamauchi sold lime in Kyoto?

Source: "Avec un sens éclairé du business dans le sang, il développe sa petite société en ouvrant de nombreuses autres boutiques de vente de chaux à travers tout Kyôto." https://omakebooks.com/fr/l-histoire-de-nintendo/274-l-histoire-de-nintendo-vol1.html

Reviewed:

Improved to Good Article status by DanganMachin (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

DanganMachin (talk) 15:36, 9 June 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Comment The article is yet not promoted to a GA status. We need to wait till that happens and then only it makes sense to review this DYK nom. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 03:46, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Conflicting information

In the last sentence and paragraph of the ‘Early life’ section it is stated that Fusajirō inherited the company Haigan in 1885 at the age of 17, but if he was born in 1859, he would have been 25 or 26 at the time.

I don't have access to the book that serves as the source for this information, so I cannot check this, but it seems more likely for the birth year to be correct than him overtaking the company in 1885, as the former has more sources (and not only in the English article). The Japanese article mentions that he was handling cement in a lime wholesaler called Haigan from 1885, but nothing about him overtaking the company, nor his marriage to the owner's daughter. It does mention that he became Naoshichi Yamauchi's son-in-law/adopted son in 1872, but the link that was the source for this currently seems to be broken. Arctagon (talk) 05:26, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

More conflicting information. The last sentence under the ‘Personal details’ section states that ‘Sekiryō would lead both the Nintendo and Haikyō companies alongside his stepfather until 1929, the year in which Fusajiro died’, but Fusajirō died in 1940. I took the liberty of changing the wording from ‘died’ to ‘retired’, in line with source #2. Arctagon (talk) 06:45, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

More conflicting information. The last sentence under the section ‘Distribution across Japan’ starts as follows: ‘By the time of Fusajiro’s death in 1929, […]’ But his death is listed as 1940. I don't have access to the source, so I cannot check what it actually says. Arctagon (talk) 07:58, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Inconsistencies with diacritics

First of all, I have changed all circumflexes into macrons for consistency.

Secondly, what is the consensus on diacritical usage in articles? Fujirō's name is spelt with a diacritic on the o, indicating a prolonged vowel, but it is quickly dropped, and he is only referred to as ‘Fujiro’ throughout the remainder of the article. I can understand dropping the diacritic for ease of writing as an argument, but I think consistency is important. Arctagon (talk) 06:42, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Potential spelling error in company name

The last sentence of the ‘Early life’ section states ‘[…] Fusajirō inherited the company at the age of 17 and renamed it Haikyō.’ Haikyō is referenced using that spelling in two other places in the article as well, but looking at the kanji of the company's name, 灰孝, ‘haikō’ is a more likely spelling.

Indeed, the company's own website uses that particular spelling both in its URL and its logo (Fusajirō is listed as the person who established the company in 1885 in the link: ‘Meiji, year 18 (1885) – Shopkeeper Fusajirō Yamauchi establishes Haikō Honten.’ (translation my own), so we can be sure that it is the company in question), and gBizInfo, a website run by Japan's Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry, provides the reading of the company name as はいこうほんてん, which would be romanised as ‘haikō honten’.

Furthermore, there is another company in Kyoto with the same name (灰孝), and they use the same reading. Trying to force the reading of ‘haikyō’ instead, and use that as a search input on Google (I used ‘灰孝 "はいきょう"’, specifically, for transparency), returns exactly zero results. The other reading, on the other hand, returns numerous.

However, this only confirms that this is what the company is called today. It doesn't necessarily preclude the reading used back when it was established from having been ‘haikyō’, though I personally find that to be unlikely. Since I don't have access to the source that seems to have provided that reading, I cannot investigate the veracity of this, so I've left the article as is for now. Arctagon (talk) 07:32, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]