Talk:Futile game

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The definition, and Rock-paper-scissors[edit]

First we define a futile game as when that both players can force into at least a draw (that's how I read it anyway), and then we give rock-paper-scissor, that never can end in a draw and that no player can force, as an example. That doesn't work!--Nø (talk) 05:55, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. The source material was mis-represented, so I updated the article Sesame honey tart 07:50, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I also removed chess. See First-move advantage in chess for a long discussion. It seems some think a draw can be forced by perfect play, while others disagree. –LPfi (talk) 11:48, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]