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LE Captain
[edit]Excellent spotting he's a Late Entry (LE) Captain!
Sammartinlai (talk) 11:40, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
- How does he manage to be an Commisioned Officer and a Soldier at the same time? MilborneOne (talk) 13:44, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
- I'm assuming its something to do with money? Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk 01:16, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
- Not money, nothing unusual. Senior RSMs for division or corps level units in the British Army are always commissioned to at least the rank of Captain but wear the WO1 rank slide and assume RSM duties. What pay they get I'm not sure, most likely LE Captain pay. Similarly, if you noticed, the Queen Elizabeth-class carriers Captains are actually substansive Commodores', but wear the four-ring Captain slide. Check out WO1s Glenn Haughton as well; he's a LE Major. Sammartinlai (talk) 06:23, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- As Dormskirk referenced, a large number of WO1s and WO2s get promoted to LE officers and are sometimes but quite often gazetted in the London Gazette. The trick is to find their names of course. Sammartinlai (talk) 11:17, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks, so the claim to be the most senior other ranks is a bit misleading when they are actually officers! MilborneOne (talk) 14:58, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- It is not misleading. Army Sergeant Major is the most senior OR in the British Army, funnily not stated in the Queen's Regulations. Will the appointment holder always be a LE officer? I don't know. Whatever, it is the most senior other rank for the British Army. (PS: I see you were RAF, wouldn't you care to know a bit more? :) Sammartinlai (talk) 13:43, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oh but it is misleading the post may be the most senior OR but it is held by an officer. Perhaps I might raise this on the ASM page. MilborneOne (talk) 10:05, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- It is NOT misleading. He is the most senior OR. He IS NOT serving as an officer. I find it curious you dont know this at all. Sammartinlai (talk) 10:43, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/7fe7ba28#/7fe7ba28/12 Read this. And end this which is becoming a forum. Sammartinlai (talk) 10:56, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- It is NOT misleading. He is the most senior OR. He IS NOT serving as an officer. I find it curious you dont know this at all. Sammartinlai (talk) 10:43, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oh but it is misleading the post may be the most senior OR but it is held by an officer. Perhaps I might raise this on the ASM page. MilborneOne (talk) 10:05, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- It is not misleading. Army Sergeant Major is the most senior OR in the British Army, funnily not stated in the Queen's Regulations. Will the appointment holder always be a LE officer? I don't know. Whatever, it is the most senior other rank for the British Army. (PS: I see you were RAF, wouldn't you care to know a bit more? :) Sammartinlai (talk) 13:43, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks, so the claim to be the most senior other ranks is a bit misleading when they are actually officers! MilborneOne (talk) 14:58, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- As Dormskirk referenced, a large number of WO1s and WO2s get promoted to LE officers and are sometimes but quite often gazetted in the London Gazette. The trick is to find their names of course. Sammartinlai (talk) 11:17, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- Not money, nothing unusual. Senior RSMs for division or corps level units in the British Army are always commissioned to at least the rank of Captain but wear the WO1 rank slide and assume RSM duties. What pay they get I'm not sure, most likely LE Captain pay. Similarly, if you noticed, the Queen Elizabeth-class carriers Captains are actually substansive Commodores', but wear the four-ring Captain slide. Check out WO1s Glenn Haughton as well; he's a LE Major. Sammartinlai (talk) 06:23, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- I'm assuming its something to do with money? Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk 01:16, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
GMB youtube clip
[edit]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4iQ1Rgz850
Reliable source to really show he is the next Army Sergeant Major?
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