Talk:George Clymer

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Birthplace[edit]

"Clymer was born in Whiteville". Where is this? Wikipedia lists three places by that name, of which only the one in North Carolina could have existed at the time. Is that the one? -- Hux (talk) 03:02, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

FWIW, Clymer's congressional biography says he was born in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. - Nunh-huh 03:05, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Clymer served as the president of the Philadelphia Bank until he passed away on January 23, 1813, at his home, Sommerseat, in Morrisville, Pennsylvania. http://pabook.libraries.psu.edu/palitmap/bios/Clymer__George.html --Dingfelder (talk) 19:07, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Category:American slave owners[edit]

George Clymer was one of 34 Signers that did not own slaves.

Then why is he listed under this category? -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Valetude (talk • contribs)

Slave owner[edit]

Regarding this edit by User:SimplySage. I have no opinion one way or another, but when you write "it appears" then link to a primary source document, this is WP:Original research specifically WP:PRIMARY #2, 3 & 4. If you can find a secondary source that is reliable that's different. This is an extraordinary claim that requires more support from secondary sources. Per WP:SECONDARY: "Wikipedia articles usually rely on material from reliable secondary sources. Articles may make an analytic, evaluative, interpretive, or synthetic claim only if that has been published by a reliable secondary source." In this case evaluation is required to determine if the primary source document is trustworthy, something a historian can evaluate by looking for corroborating or contrary evidence in other documents for example. -- GreenC 05:05, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This secondary source confirms George Clymer came into possession of a "negro man named Ned" through his father Christopher's estate. Ned died soon after. We can confirm in a secondary source (which draws on a primary source) he briefly held a slave, through an inheritance. -- GreenC 06:21, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I read the letter more carefully and it says "..to exchange [George Morgan]'s black girl registered in Penn'a for [George Clymer]'s Judy". We assume Judy is a slave, but, further on it says "Mrs. Clymer would wish to know immediately [what Morgan's black girl is like], as otherwise she must if she can get a Dutch [German immigrant] woman". Now, it's perfectly reasonable to assume people were traded around even when not slaves - families of wealth and status might "trade" domestic help who are otherwise free. Even if we assume Judy is a black slave, which this letter is not clear about - maybe she is a free person, or not even black - we can't assume Morgan's black girl was a slave either - she is "registered" but free blacks were regulated. While this letter is interesting and suggests further research it can't on its own confirm he was a slave holder. -- GreenC 15:31, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]