Talk:German Sports Badge

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SS usage[edit]

Very hard to believe the Germans still have this badge. It was a major decoration used by the SS during the 1930s and many Waffen-SS soldiers wore the badge on thier uniforms during World War II. I imagine since there was no swastika, its continued usage must not be that of a big deal. -OberRanks (talk) 20:56, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Sportabzeichen has been created in 1912! Take a look into the german Wikipedia where you'll find sources.

It is more of a civilian award which one can win after meeting the requirements. In the military it is sometimes required to obtain a certain military award or as a requrement to be permitted to training courses. So thats NOT a Nazi or an SS invention and a large number of germans try to get the Sprotabzeichen or a higher level of the Sprotabzeichen each year. I can't believe you guys associate each german award or medal with the SS!!! --89.50.29.26 (talk) 15:31, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Didnt mean to imply the SS invented it, it was much older. Just interesting its still used given the high number of awards made to Waffen-SS during the war. -OberRanks (talk) 16:47, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Do you also wonder why Thanksgiving is still around giving the fact that it was happily and proudly celebrated by people who performed genocide as well? I personally think both arguments are nonsense, because simultaneous existence does not constitute a connection --Tdeu (talk) 18:56, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This was never really an argument- I was just interested to learn it was still around and still issued - in fact, I think one might be able to safely say its the only World War II German decoration still issued with maybe a few other exceptions. One of the reasons I think its probably still around is because the badge never had a swastika on it, not even during WWII. The Germans had to pass federal laws in the 1950s to permit the continued wearing of WWII decorations that had Nazi symbols on them and then only with such symbols removed. On that point, I wonder if the SA Sports badge was allowed to still be worn after WWII. It too was commonly issued as a sports badge throughout the entire German military. -OberRanks (talk) 19:54, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Importance in Nazi Germany?[edit]

Simply because a service record has a section on the "front" page for awards does not indicate "importance" of the award in and of itself. The DD Form 214 is a one-page summary and includes awards. Service records often have one-page summaries and because such summaries are frequently edited, sections which receive frequent changes would be on the front for the convenience of the clerk. Something more substantial is needed to WP:V this conclusion. In the US military, there is anAwards_and_decorations_of_the_United_States_military#Order_of_precedence for awards. If the issuance of such German Sports Badges were announced in {Nazi) newspapers, by high level officials, or given prominence in obits, then secondary sources might make such conclusions.--S. Rich (talk) 20:25, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I found this award listed in at least three textbooks about the SS which stated that the SS regarded the decoration as an important sports badge and that it was required for its members to earn while in a probationary status before becoming full SS members. The SS-Hauptamt also directed that the decoration appear on the front of all SS service records. This is also cited historical information which should be in the article. -OberRanks (talk) 20:29, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, the historical information should be cited in the article. As you've got those textbooks, I hope you will do so. The SS-Hauptamt article does not mention the Sports Badge.--S. Rich (talk) 20:37, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I added two references with page numbers. I actually havent worked on the Hauptamt article hardly at all. I'm sure there's a lot of material which could be added there as well. -OberRanks (talk) 20:45, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

German Sports Badge - DSA[edit]

I just put few corrections on the presentation of the DSA the most important one is that DSA since 1993 is available in 39 Countries outside Germany through the authorized Pruefer (judges) and the authorized Verein (German sport organisations in that particular Country) List of the authorized Verein/Pruefer con be obtained by the responsible office at DOSB

Auslandsbearbeitung Norbert Zippel Deutscher Olympischer Sportbund Otto-Fleck-Schneise 12 60528 Frankfurt Tel.: +49 (0)69 67 00 296 Fax: +49 (0)69 67 00 1 296 E-Mail: zippel(at)dosb.de Internet: http://deutsches-sportabzeichen.de

One question: why the DSA ribbon isn't authorized to be worn on the Uniform by US Armed Forces? If any help needed you may contact me at info(at)deutsches-sportabzeichen.it — Preceding unsigned comment added by FDANILO (talk • contribs) 10:19, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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