Talk:German interest in the Caribbean

This article was nominated for deletion on 19 February 2013 (UTC). The result of the discussion was keep.

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Hoax[edit]

There are no sources about a "Deutsche Karibik". The article seems to be a hoax. --Otberg (talk) 15:13, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed you made this edit to the article German Caribbean, which previously seemed to be a clever hoax perpetrated by another editor (and is currently being discussed for deletion here). The information you added appears to be legitimate (in contrast to the rest of the article, which seems considerably more dubious), and you seem to have some expertise on the topic, so I wanted to get your input on if the topic of "German Caribbean" itself was worth an article. Thanks, IronGargoyle (talk) 19:38, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

it is not a hoax. the German navy definitely was interested -- but Bismarck vetoed the idea and nothing actually came of it before 1890 when Bismarck was ousted. There was a lot of talk 1890-1910 but no real action. By 1900 American "naval planners were obsessed with German designs in the hemisphere and countered with energetic efforts to secure naval sites in the Caribbean" says Lester D. Langley (1983). The Banana Wars: United States Intervention in the Caribbean, 1898-1934. p. 14. Germany then turned its attention to Mexico where it played a much bigger role....leading to the Zimmermann Telegram of 1917. Rjensen (talk) 20:12, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The article tells us: In 1888 German naval engineers landed on Klein Curaçao, a small island southeast of Curaçao, to undertake the construction of a naval shipyard... This ist obviously nonsens. Please do not mix up this nonsens with other things, like general German interests in the Caribbean. A "German Caribbean" or "Deutsche Karibik" or some other kind of Caribbean colony did not exist in this century. --Otberg (talk) 20:50, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

De-hoaxed[edit]

I think the original text was a clever hoax. I have written it to include only verified facts, per RS listed in the notes. Rjensen (talk) 01:55, 21 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks! There remains the question of the article name, which is a fake also. --Otberg (talk) 07:33, 21 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Renamed[edit]

Per the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/German_Caribbean I renamed the article. I'm not positive this new name is the best, so others should fee free to rename if a better title is found. --Noleander (talk) 16:10, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]