Talk:Gerrymandering

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Meaning of Gerrymandering[edit]

The introductory sentence says "Gerrymandering is the political manipulation of electoral district boundaries with the intent to create undue advantage for a party, group, or socioeconomic class." But there are instances where that is actually the remedy to gerrymandering, not gerrymandering itself. When a minority is relatively evenly distributed throughout a state, then it becomes impossible to create majority-minority districts without manipulating the electoral district boundaries to advantage that minority group. In fact the courts have at times required that states do this in order to counter perceived "gerrymandering" that is preventing majority-minority districts. It seems to me that this contradiction should be pointed out in the introduction, similar to how contradictory meaning is explained in the introduction to the "Original Equipment Manufacturer" article.--Westwind273 (talk) 20:45, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

US Senate[edit]

@Darknipples: The disputed text is A striking modern example of malapportionment is the U.S. senate, where states receive equal representation despite widely varying populations. By this logic, the UN General Assembly would seem to be malapportioned. India and Nauru get the same number of votes. I do not understand this sort of complaint. But since you found one RS that uses 'malapportionment', I've left it in (although whether it is relevant here is another matter). Srnec (talk) 20:46, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate the discussion. The UN may or may not be considered malapportioned by some standards, but I do not believe it is a complaint or criticism, rather, it is a notable example that seems to have consensus among RS including academia. I'm confused as to why the Guardian source was removed. I checked Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources. Why do you consider it unreliable or otherwise not worthy of inclusion here? Cheers. DN (talk) 21:27, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
We already have a better source sufficient for the point. Srnec (talk) 00:31, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Remedies[edit]

I was surprised that this article doesn't include any discussion of proposals to remedy gerrymandering. I found Gerrymandering in the United States § Remedies, and suggest something similar be added to this article. Daask (talk) 23:09, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]