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Ara Pacis Picture[edit]

I don't know who keeps reverting the page to include this picture of the Ara Pacis, but not since 1987 has any scholar attributed that frieze to Gnaeus Domitius Ahenobarbus. Think about it: The Ara Pacis was completed on 9 BC, commissioned in 13 BC. Gnaeus Domitius Ahenobarbus would have been 40 something years old when he was made Consul, which was in 32 AD, if this was the case. That's insane. Hence, that cannot be Gnaeus Domitius Ahenobarbus. Please stop adding that false information onto the page.

If you need me to dig out the article that will corroborate this information, please do, but it seems obvious if you look at it math. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.134.14.204 (talk) 02:41, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

BetacommandBot (talk) 06:00, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Birthdate[edit]

The article gives a very precise birthdate: 11 December 17 BC. Does anyone know the origin of this date? It fits in well with the dates of Domitius's two sisters, who were born in c 17 BC and c 10 BC according to the other Wikipedia articles (although since Domitius's date appears to be invented, I suppose those may be as well).

On the other hand, Barrett in his biography of Agrippina calculates that he may have been born in about 2/1 BC, since he was consul in 32 AD (p. 44). If there was any record of Domitius having been born in 17 BC, I'm sure Barrett would mention it.

I don't know anything about the figures on the Ara Pacis, which is discussed above, but if Domitius was born in 17, he would have been 8 when the altar was finished. According to the article on Antonia Major (his mother), the two children are Domitius and his elder sister Domitia Lepida, who would have been 8 and 10 when the altar was finished. The two children certainly look as if they're about that age - on the other hand, I don't know what the basis is for their identification. Since Antonia Major was born in c. 39 BC, she would have been 20 when Domitia Lepida was born, and 22 when Domitius was born. That sounds reasonable and likely. While if he was born around 2/1 BC, she would have been around 38, which is also possible. Anna Lowenstein (talk) 08:50, 15 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bust[edit]

Does the bust depict our man? This site (http://ancientrome.ru/art/artworken/img.htm?id=3428) claims that the bust resembles a portrait on coin minted by Cn. Domitius Ahenobarbus (not the subject of this article, but his grandfather, cos. 32 BC) - coins like this (https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/C_1844-0425-467-A). It's true that the Vatican museum calls it a bust of Ahenobarbus, cos. 32 AD, but there's no known likeness of him, and the portrait on coins seems to depict an ancestor of the minter, so I fail to see any link between the man depicted on this bust and Nero's father. I looked for any concrete claim of this bust being a depiction of Nero's father, but I found nothing - except the claim that the bust resembles a man depicted on the coins minted by Nero's great-grandfather Tiberio Cesare (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 20:36, 13 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]