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Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT (talk) 22:34, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Move proposal

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  • Move to Gourd mouth organ. All of the gourd mouth organs in South, East, and Southeast Asia can be discussed without using a Chinese title that is inapplicable to all of the non-Chinese instruments. "Hulusheng" is itself a generic term, not referring to any specific instrument but instead being the Chinese term meaning "gourd mouth organ." Badagnani 22:31, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by MeegsC (talk15:08, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Art from Tang dynasty showing a musician playing the mouth organ (2nd left)
Art from Tang dynasty showing a musician playing the mouth organ (2nd left)
  • ... that the gourd mouth organ (pictured) was invented 3000 years ago? Source: Sachs, C. (2012). The history of musical instruments. Courier Corporation. ISBN 0486171515
    • ALT1:... that the gourd mouth organ (pictured) is believed to be invented by Chinese goddess Nüwa?
    • ALT2:... that the tallest gourd mouth organ (pictured) can go up to about 12 feet? Source: Chapman, A. (2005). Breath and bamboo: Diasporic Lao identity and the Lao mouth-organ. Journal of Intercultural Studies, 26(1-2), 5-20.
    • ALT3: ... that the gourd mouth organ (pictured) was invented in the third millennium B.C. and the tallest can go up to about twelve feet? Source: Sachs, C. (2012). The history of musical instruments. Courier Corporation. ISBN 0486171515. p 184.; Chapman, A. (2005). Breath and bamboo: Diasporic Lao identity and the Lao mouth-organ. Journal of Intercultural Studies, 26(1-2), 5-20.

5x expanded by Ryssian (talk). Self-nominated at 02:11, 24 May 2021 (UTC).[reply]

  • Note: I've restored the original hooks, which should be left in place, and labeled the new hook ALT3. Desertarun, does ALT3 work? I'm concerned about the "third millennium B.C." mention, since the article says "believed to be" and then goes on to note that the earliest recorded mention is 1100 B.C. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:04, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've checked the hook refs and I'm finding it tricky. Sachs says "THE MOUTH ORGAN (Chinese shêng, Japanese shô) was originally made with a gourd. Today the gourd is replaced by a piece of wood cut in the same" and later "In China the mouth organ is said to have been invented by Emperor Nyu-kwa in the third millennium B.C. as an imitation of the bird Phoenix" and "In the most highly developed form of the raft-shaped mouth organ, in Middle and South Laos, the two rafts, sometimes as tall as twelve feet, are laid on top of each other and this double raft pierces through an elongated, wooden windchest". Sachs is discussing mouth organs not specifically gourd mouth organs, making me wonder if these refs are applicable or not. I don't know? Desertarun (talk) 19:07, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Alt4... that the gourd mouth organ is said to have been created in the third millennium B.C. as a likeness of the Phoenix?

Review The article is new enough, long enough, QPQ is not required, copyvio is clear apart from quotes and simple descriptions of the organ which are unavoidable. The picture is public domain. I've struck the other Alts because I can't verify them. I've added Alt4 myself which is based upon the source Sachs. The source Sachs is being used in the article without page numbers, I personally can let that go but it would be up to the next reviewer to decide on that and Alt4. Desertarun (talk) 08:31, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Needs some light copyediting, and as Desertarun said above, the citations need page numbers ideally, but this reviewer considers neither of these obstacles to DYK. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 04:14, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Changed wikilink to fenghuang as Phoenix (mythology) is about the creature of Western myth. The two are conflated all the time, though, so either wikilink is fine. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 18:11, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]