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The 15th century is the 1400s[edit]

European exploration of the area began in the 15th century: I doubt it, since the 15th century is the 1400s.--Wetman (talk) 23:11, 8 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Juan de Fuca is not strictly documented to have been there in his 1592 voyage, and the Europeans didn't really arrive until the late 1700s, so I changed it to 18th century. The Vikings got to Baffin Island in the 11th century, but they didn't get that far! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.69.174.194 (talk) 10:17, 22 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Definition of "Graveyard of the Pacific"[edit]

The article currently uses the stretch from Tillamook to the northern tip of Vancouver Island as the extent of the graveyard of the pacific, which I changed to include Coos Bay 150 miles south, since the entire Oregon coast is peppered with shipwrecks, and the New Carissa, mentioned specifically in the article, ran aground at Coos Bar. The current definition, which excludes Coos Bar (and therefore the wreck of the New Carissa and the George L. Olson, the wreck of a sailing ship visible on Coos Bay beach), comes from one source, an online essay entitled "Graveyard of the Pacific: Shipwrecks on the Washington Coast" by David Wilma. My change was reverted because of this source, but a quick investigation via google shows that most "sources" give the definition as being much more limited, either only the waters outside the Columbia River estuary (the view taken by the Oregon State Parks [1]), or just the region north from Puget Sound to the northern tip of Vancouver island (per the Maritime Museum of British Columbia [2]). The actual use of this term by people in the region (I lived in Oregon for about five years myself) includes almost the entire Oregon coast, including Coos Bay, up to Vancouver Island, but this definition is not reflected in any of the contradictory sources that are easily located. The only clear thing here is that current definition is arbitrary and reflects in specifics neither the state of all the sources, nor the actual use of the term. I would suggest being more inclusive, recognizing that there is nothing "official" about the use of this term, since it simply refers to the dangerous waters of the Pacific Northwest and the large number of wrecks that consequently dot the area. siafu (talk) 16:49, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that people should be clear when something is clear, like my birthday, and regionally flexible, like GYOTP. The whole coast is dangerous, but the west coast of Vancouver Island is extremely remote and treacherous. cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.69.174.194 (talk) 10:22, 22 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Graveyard of the Pacific: Shipwrecks on the Washington Coast

This essay has excellent information for adding content to this article. Darryl.P.Pike (talk) 08:23, 24 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]