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Comedy style
[edit]Please add his comedy style(s) to the sidebar like other comedians have. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.146.56.3 (talk) 12:40, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
I just made a muck up during my first edits with huggle, so I quickly reverted them. Looks like ClueBot beat me to reverting some vandalism, and I then restored it! Sorry for the inconvenience. Cj005257 (talk) 19:32, 8 April 2011 (UTC).
Size 16 feet?
[edit]Nobody's feet are that big, right? --86.177.34.252 (talk) 00:27, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Huh? I wear size 21 shoes - some of us are not midgets like the general population tend to be. I wore size 16's when I was 13 years old. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.120.133.152 (talk) 17:03, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
Size 33 feet?
[edit]They're growing!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.220.74.148 (talk) 20:26, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
Birth date
[edit]The date of birth in the first line is not the same as the birth groups category at the bottom of the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.143.240.100 (talk) 12:14, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
Nationality
[edit]He's Welsh, not English. He grew up in shropshire to Welsh parents, but has told the story of how his father drove over the border so he was born in Wales. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.157.70.211 (talk) 09:07, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- That needs a source to back it up. Jim Michael (talk) 23:18, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
- He's British. 80.176.88.21 (talk) 11:57, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- Regardless of his father's motoring and geographical skills, he was born in St Asaph, that's a fact. And St Asaph was, and still is, located in Wales, that's also a fact. Whether or not that makes him "Welsh", or how much Welsh, is open to debate. In the UK, although Wales is a country, Welsh isn't recognised legally as "a nationality", so his nationality will be British. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:07, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
- Birth does not indicate or eqaute to nationality and he considers Shropshire his home, which is where he grew up, where he is from and where his accent links to. Please read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Nationality_of_people_from_the_United_Kingdom for more information. Sellsomepapers (talk) 14:21, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
- Place of residence does mot equate to nationality, and neither does place of upbringing? Thanks for the link. I've re-read that page. So are you saying that the key issue here is that Davies does not self-identify as Welsh? I still think "Welsh-born English" sounds a bit awkward and overly-pedantic. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:18, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
- "Place of Residence" on Wiki means the place where the person is associated with, place of upbringing makes more sense than the particular soil a person was born on/where his parents were at the time. As far as I know, Davies has never identified as Welsh, the only thing that points to that type of identity is that he considers Shropshire (England) his home as that's where he grew up.Sellsomepapers (talk) 14:45, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
- That all sounds quite fair. But, by the same token, as far as I know, Davies has never explicitly identified as "English". To me the situation looks quite similar to Tommy Cooper. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:15, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
- "Place of Residence" on Wiki means the place where the person is associated with, place of upbringing makes more sense than the particular soil a person was born on/where his parents were at the time. As far as I know, Davies has never identified as Welsh, the only thing that points to that type of identity is that he considers Shropshire (England) his home as that's where he grew up.Sellsomepapers (talk) 14:45, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
- Place of residence does mot equate to nationality, and neither does place of upbringing? Thanks for the link. I've re-read that page. So are you saying that the key issue here is that Davies does not self-identify as Welsh? I still think "Welsh-born English" sounds a bit awkward and overly-pedantic. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:18, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
- Birth does not indicate or eqaute to nationality and he considers Shropshire his home, which is where he grew up, where he is from and where his accent links to. Please read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Nationality_of_people_from_the_United_Kingdom for more information. Sellsomepapers (talk) 14:21, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
- Regardless of his father's motoring and geographical skills, he was born in St Asaph, that's a fact. And St Asaph was, and still is, located in Wales, that's also a fact. Whether or not that makes him "Welsh", or how much Welsh, is open to debate. In the UK, although Wales is a country, Welsh isn't recognised legally as "a nationality", so his nationality will be British. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:07, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
- He's British. 80.176.88.21 (talk) 11:57, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
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Website
[edit]According to his facebook page, this is the proper website for Greg: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/image.cfm?c_id=1&gal_objectid=10772980&gallery_id=123076#8395358 Evil taxidermied sloth (talk) 08:51, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- This is clearly nonsense - that page contains photographs of a seal pup in New Zealand Ringbark (talk) 22:10, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
Welsh?
[edit]I don't think there's sufficient evidence in the article to support using Welsh as his nationality in the lead. According to the sources, he was actually born in Wales but his parents lived in England at the time of his birth. None of the sources suggest he has ever lived in Wales, and it is cited he refers to Shropshire, England as his home county. Unless he actually identifies as either Welsh or English I would consider it safest to stick with British. January (talk) 15:19, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
- Wales Online claimed him last year. But I don't think that really counts, does it. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:22, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
- Because there's no such thing as Welsh citizenship, it's not always clear-cut. I'd argue that to decide whether someone is Welsh or not, you would have to ask the following questions:
- Was he born in Wales?
- Was he raised in Wales? (perhaps the most important)
- Has he lived in Wales in his adult life?
- Does he have a Welsh accent? (I'd argue this is pretty important too)
- Does he identify as being Welsh, or consider Wales to be home?
- Were his parents Welsh, by the above definitions?
- Greg Davies was born in Wales and had a Welsh father (the account isn't clear about his mother). But otherwise he doesn't really fit any of these descriptors. If anything he seems to be closer connected to England. Since we don't want to use terms like "Welsh English" or "Welsh-born English", the article should say he was "British". Anywikiuser (talk) 20:12, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
- We should also have changed the articles of two much less well-known Wales natives Anthony Hopkins and Catherine Zeta-Jones since they both say they are Welsh in their ledes. Who would like to get that ball rolling? Seasider53 (talk) 11:35, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- "... much less well-known"? I'm assuming that's a joke. Both strongly self-identify as Welsh. I'd steer clear of that particular ball. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:40, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- Are planning to nominate Welsh people at WP:AfD? Martinevans123 (talk) 11:05, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
Lordship?
[edit]According to the first episode of season two of Taskmaster, Greg now has a Lordship. Can this be fact checked — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.96.118.173 (talk) 21:52, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
- What an utterly bizarre claim. Do you have a source? Even if you have a good source, it may not necessarily be notable. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:19, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
- Taskmaster is a comedy show which features 5 comedians who are set tasks over the course of a series. One of the tasks in the latest episode was to buy a gift worth £20 for the host Davies (the Taskmaster). Canadian Katherine Ryan bought Davies a square foot of land that entitles him to be called a Lord (screenshots, video, 20:00 to 26:00), but its a bit like having a star named after you, it doesn't carry any real weight. It is a funny show though, --The Vintage Feminist (talk) 20:59, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
Official government guidance states that this is wrong and (I believe) illegal. "Lord of the Manor" titles are mostly a scam, and in no situations allow someone to use "Lord" as a prefix. [1]
- My understanding is that it is not illegal unless you 1. attempt to use it as part of your name on a government document, or 2. attempt to extract (and/or actually receive) privileges normally reserved for or afforded to those who have the legal status so assumed (something like impersonating a peace officer in the USA) unless the other party(-ies) are fully aware of the actual nature and legal meaning of the claim and choose to bequeath such privileges anyway. I myself have a common title of honor but not of legal nobility (thanks to Cards Against Humanity's 2016 Hanukkah event). Should I ever have the privilege of meeting Greg Davies in person, you can bet that I will address him as his lordship, but I do not pretend that such an observation has any legal bearing in my country or elsewhere. Sabin4232 (talk) 13:00, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
References
Greg Davies Welshness
[edit]Greg Davies is Welsh, not English - so that aspect needs to be removed. You cannot claim a new ethnicity. "Like many people in North Wales..." claiming ancestry from Owain Glyndwr is something easily traced in Wales so this stereotypical racist comment is totally redundant and should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.57.203.180 (talk) 06:03, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
- He's currently described as "British", which seems beyond dispute. His claim to be a descendant of Owain Glyndŵr may be trivial, but I don't believe it is necessarily a "stereotypical racist comment". It was covered in the BBC programme Who Do You Think You Are? about Davies. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:22, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
- Although he has Welsh connections/family history, I agree that it makes the most sense to refer to him as "British" in the lede. --Noahfgodard (talk) 04:06, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
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Please give him a more flattering picture, I just love him so much and his face looks like he just got came on by an orc. Cheviot69 (talk) 11:32, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
Not done Unfortunately this seems to be the only image of him currently available at Commons. We can only use images that are not protected by copyright. There is a potential image at flickr here, which someone may be able to load to Commons. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:17, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
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Change English stand-up comedian to Welsh stand-up comedian TallGiraffe26 (talk) 15:49, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Given the apparent complexity of the situation (Welsh parents living in England moving back to Wales for this, then educated in England,...), this would require a reliable source, can't trust your opinion on this. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 16:30, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
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One of Greg Davies' first ever television appearance was on the 6th December 2003. He featured in Season 3, Episode 23 of Dick and Dom in da Bungalow, where he came on the show as 'Massive Greg and his Amazing Human Tortoise', during which he pulled a large tortoise shell onto the stage holding a man screwing his face up wearing a flatcap and proceeded to feed him lettuce. The episode can be found on YouTube. HeyGuysJoe (talk) 08:46, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
Not done A truly stunning television debut (possibly). The video is easily found on YouTube, by searching for that episode. But it seems likely that it may be a BBC copyright violation, and so cannot be used as a source for this article. Do you have any alternative source(s), preferably written one(s)? A separate source would also be required to support the claim that it was Davies' television debut. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:07, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
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Add in the title of "Lord", as in Taskmaster Series 2 Episode 3 he was granted it. 170.76.186.61 (talk) 16:00, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
Not done Sorry, he's not a real lord. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:24, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
Brunel University
[edit]I seem to recall hearing somewhere (may even have been an episode of BBC One's 'Would I Lie To You?') that Greg and fellow stand-up Lee Mack lived in the same student house whilst they were Brunel undergraduates? I'm not sure if they were on exactly the same degree programme. 90.244.171.15 (talk) 17:13, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- Davies did English and Drama, while Mack did just Drama. But cannot find anything online about them sharing a student house. If it was on Would I Lie To You?, it might have been a lie? Apparently not mentioned in Lee's autobiography Mack the Life. It seems they did an "Evening with..." in 2019. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:51, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
CBBC appearances with Ed & Oucho
[edit]There are a few (unofficial) clips of Greg playing caricatures of historical figures such as Guy Fawkes with Ed & Oucho during their time as CBBC presenters, that aren't currently featured in the article.
I'm not in a position to do any research on this at the present time, to find reliable sources, so thought I'd at least leave a note here if anyone wants to pick anything up on this.
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