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汪洋首次回应“粤语之争”

汪洋首次回应“粤语之争”：粤人“富之”以后须“教之” - news.boxun.com 汪洋首次回应“粤语之争”：粤人“富之”以后须“教之” (博讯北京时间2010年7月17日 转载)

联合早报/普通话（华语）与白话（粤语）之争在广东进一步升温，地方政府推广普通话的意图明显，但广东人却不愿妥协，纷纷站出来捍卫白话。

广东省委书记汪洋昨天在广东省委十届七次全会上说，广东人均生产总值（GDP）已近6000美元（8300新元，下同），可以说基本“富之”，下一步更重要的是要“教之”，以教开智，以文“化”人，通过教化提高人的素质。 (博讯 boxun.com)

汪洋引述《论语》故事说：孔子到卫国看到熙熙攘攘的人流，弟子冉有问，这地方人口众多，该如何治理？孔子答：“富之”；冉有又问，富裕起来之后又如何？孔子答道：“教之”。

至于如何“教之”，汪洋提出诸多论述，其中包括要引导民众多看文艺演出，参观博物馆、美术展等活动，提高情趣与文化素养。所谓“教之”，也包括推广普通话。

这是自广州近日爆发“普白之争”以来，广东最高领导人首次发表的看法。

广州市政协近日正式向广州市长万庆良建议，广州电视台的两个主要频道改用普通话。书面建议中说，把广州电视台的综合频道或新闻频道改为以普通话为基本播音用语的节目频道，或在其综合频道和新闻频道的主时段中用普通话播出，以满足今年11月来广州参加亚运会和旅游的国内外宾客语言环境的需要。

在解释以上建议时，广州市政协提案委有关负责人说，广州的外地人众多，这群人的权益也应该受到重视。此外，广州还面临着国家中心城市的建设，以白话为基本播音用语，就无法上卫星，也就无法发挥国家中心城市的作用，白话明显与这些新形势不适应。

“普白之争”目前也波及到广东其他城市。东莞石碣纪念园的袁崇焕雕像，基座上原刻有他带兵打仗时的口头禅：“ＸＸ妈！顶硬上！”，这句口头禅近日已遭东莞文化部门下令铲除。

“顶硬上”是袁崇焕当年保护明朝京城的主旋律，而“ＸＸ妈”是骂明朝昏君的广东粗话。 “ＸＸ妈”被视为白话特色方言，广东军人在作战时，都喜欢把这句粗话，当成冲锋口号。该事件引起舆论和民众强烈不满，令白话扞卫战火上加油。

有网民说，袁崇焕的口头禅不止是广东文化，也是中国历史，当局没有理由铲除这句口头禅；为了推广普通话而牺牲广东文化和中国历史是不负责任的。

另一方面，广州一班80后青年则仿效香港年轻人，走上街头进行“我为粤语歌曲狂”的活动，高举“广府话起锚，煲冬瓜收皮”的标语，并快闪“唱粤语歌”，表达对白话被“扼杀”的不满，力争保留广州文化。

除了青年，广东名人、全国人大代表、曾任多届全国政协委员钟南山院士前天也说，广东要建设文化强省，应该力挺白话。

籍贯福建但在广州长大的钟南山前天在自由呼吸中国行广州站活动上被记者问及“普白之争”时说，当然要力挺白话。广东要建设文化强省，白话有助于发扬地方文化，又能促进同乡、华侨交流，拉近彼此感情，对发展地方特色起到重要作用。

他说：“粤语不单是语言，更涉及到广东文化、广东人喜怒哀乐的感情，我不赞成用普通话取而代之。” (博讯记者：于明) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arilang1234 (talk • contribs)

Mostly covered already. I prefer not to use Boxun as a source as its reporting tends to be rather extreme. Kxx (talk | contribs) 05:08, 28 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

To be translated into English[edit]

广州市民“撑粤语”，担心粤语存亡

广州市民“撑粤语”，担心粤语存亡

记者: 青越 | 香港2010年 7月 26日

图片来源: 互联网

抗议最近有关将粤语电视节目改为普通话播音的广州市民

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广州市民星期天下午举行抗议集会，对最近有关将粤语电视节目改为普通话播音的提议表示不满。有观察人士认为，当地人对粤语以及所承载的文化可能被迫消失感到担忧。

这次集会最初是从互联网上发起的。网上的消息说，原来统计有近一万人打算参加，但公安部门指活动违法，发起人被迫取消了活动。不过据香港和大陆媒体报道，星期天下午仍有上千名民众聚集在广州市中心街头，自发性参加这个所谓“撑粤语”的集会。在现场的目击者发来消息说，参加集会的人大多数是20几岁的年轻人，也有一些中年人。他们散发印有粤语的宣传品，高呼口号。目击者说，有一百多名警察前来维持秩序，并劝说集会人群散去，不过一度引来人群的责骂声。

  • 市政协提议普通话播音引起轩然大波*

这次集会在昨天傍晚和平结束，然而一场从七月初开始的有关粤语存亡的争论并没有划上句号。争论的直接起因是广州市政协提出的“关于进一步加强亚运会软环境建设的建议”中，市政协委员纪可光提出，为了创造更好地语言环境，更好地为亚运会期间不讲广东话的观光游客服务，建议市政府把广州电视台综合频道或新闻频道改为普通话播音，或者在黄金时段用普通话播音。建议一经报导便引起广州市民的极大关注，一些人甚至用“粤语沦陷”来形容他们的焦虑。

  • 普通市民：粤语危机感一触即发*

广州一个出版社的工作人员吴小姐对记者表示，她当时在互联网上提出自己的看法，她说，作为一个普通的广州市民，她对推广普通话没有任何意见，但是这不能作为扼杀广东话的理由。她说，家里祖辈都讲广东话，如果广东都改成用普通话，造成的困难可想而知。“象我爸那些老一辈的真的不会听普通话的。我没想到我带他到北京旅游的时候发现他一点都听不懂。所以在我们家他就看广州台。”

据人民日报的报导，在广州一千四百万居民中，有一半的人以粤语为第一语言，另一半则讲普通话。而今年6月，广州市政协针对亚运会软环境问题进行的民意调查显示，有将近八成的市民希望广州电视台继续沿用粤语播音。

在有关将电视节目从粤语改为普通话播音的建议提出后，又有媒体报道广州一所小学规定学生课外不许讲粤语的消息，无疑加重了很多人感受到的粤语危机。从七月初以来，有关的讨论和市民在互联网上发表的意见不断，而且越来越激化。

在广州一个出版社工作的吴小姐说：“老广们现在都跳起来了 ，大家为了维护粤语更团结了。现在在所有的公园啊，那些90后都站出来维护，本来他们不关心的，在自己身边发生的都不是很关心，现在他们也跳起来了。”

  • 文化人士：普粤之争凸显文化没落之忧*

除了普通市民，一些文化人士也表达了他们的看法。亚洲电视台的一个特别报导说，广东的粤语说书演员彭嘉志认为，广东人对广东文化长期被边缘化已经有不满情绪。这个减少广东话广播的事件只是一个导火线，广东市民这样激动地发表意见，就是觉得自己文化的根被人践踏了。

还有一些学者发表意见认为，粤语的影响力远不止在广东，而是由于早年移民的原因扩展到了世界各地。围绕粤语不仅有一个强大的经济圈，而且还有一个以粤港澳为中心的有着深远影响力的岭南文化。所以在广州出现的对粤语的微词，成了牵一发动全身的焦点。

香港独立中文笔会的副会长潘嘉伟表示，大陆提倡统一语言无可厚非，在一个公开的、官方的场合使用统一的语言，是可以理解和接受的。但是为了一个临时性的活动而去影响一个根深蒂固的语言习惯，却完全没有道理。

潘嘉伟说：“我觉得非常莫名其妙，因为要搞一个大型的运动会，让其他人来看的一个活动，就要让大家去改变生活习惯，我觉得这完全没有道理。你可以加一个频道，普通话的频道，那为什么要他们改呢？要改就是不尊重本地文化的一个做法。”

潘嘉伟认为，中国各地有方言的地方基本都被普通话所同化了。中央实行文化统一的做法几十年，很多各地原来有的一些文化，也都被慢慢地磨掉了。而广州人所担心的正是这个。

  • 寄希望普通话与粤语共存*

广州得以用粤语进行广播，要得益于与港澳毗邻的特殊地位。国家广电总局在22年前批准广州电视台使用粤语广播。现在广州台拥有8个频道，其中作为主要频道的综合频道有一些含广告的普通话新闻和中国城市报导等栏目，其余则都是粤语节目。在广州也有一些市民认为，电视台改播普通话，是否真的事关粤语的存亡。人们日报援引一位市民的置疑说，推广普通话当真就等于要灭亡广东话吗？当真就是要消灭广东文化吗？这里面有必然的对立吗？

都是出于对粤语前途的关心，更多人是希望粤语能与普通话并存下去，而不需要出现同化与被同化、消灭与被消灭的结局。在最近香港书展的一次座谈会上，岭南文化研究者饶原生就提到，粤语对汉语所产生的示范意义广泛而深远，比如最新的2005年版本“现代汉语词典”中，就收录了“打的”、“埋单”、“炒更”、“养眼”、“生猛”、“搞笑”等上百个粤语新词。香港著名时装设计师、专栏作家及节目主持人邓达智也提到，“山寨”一词也是从香港的“山寨厂”，也就是那些没有经过正式注册的制衣厂引伸出来的，结果被粤港两地广泛使用，继而“走红”全国。

http://www1.voanews.com/chinese/news/20100726-street-rally-99224859.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arilang1234 (talk • contribs)

This article almost certainly needs a better title[edit]

"Cantonese Citizens Defend Cantonese Language Activity" is nothing more than a word-by-word translation of the article on the Chinese Wikipedia and looks rather Chinglish. "Controversy over proposed increased adoption of Standard Mandarin by Guangzhou Television" anybody? Kxx (talk | contribs) 18:17, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved. Kxx (talk | contribs) 13:40, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
How about "2010 Defend-Cantonese protest"? Benjwong (talk) 01:34, 28 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think that “2010 Defend-Cantonese protest(s)” fails to summarize the whole series of events. The protests are indeed big events, but China’s political environment determines that they can only have limited impact, especially as local media were apparently instructed to suppress their coverage. They are like supernovae—they are bright when they shine, but will dim into oblivion very soon quickly. What really exerts sustained impact is the widespread discussion of the ecosystem of Cantonese, by the media and online. That reinforces the Cantonese people’s belief in Cantonese, particularly in the younger generations, and renews the sense of the crisis of their mother tongues falling into extinction in people who speak dialects of Southern China. Hence I believe that the current title properly covers all these topics. Kxx (talk | contribs) 04:54, 28 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Benjwong, "2010 Defend-Cantonese protest" is a better name. Arilang talk 03:58, 28 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I left a message earlier at the previous deletion page to see if you wanted to rename it to Protests against suppression of Cantonese speaking tradition. I have no preference. Benjwong (talk) 04:27, 28 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Benjwong, Protests against suppression of Cantonese speaking tradition is fine with me, if there is no objection, maybe you just go ahead and rename it? Arilang talk 05:02, 28 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Objection here. See my comments above, which equally applies. Kxx (talk | contribs) 05:38, 28 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Kxx, the fuse of the "bomb" is certainly 'proposed increase of adoption of Standard Mandarin by Guangzhou Television', there is no deny of it; however, soon there will be wide spread protests, in Hong Kong, in Macao, possible in South East Asia. The "controversy" bit will be out-shadowed by the coming 'protests'. Arilang talk 05:53, 28 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Then let’s wait and see how those upcoming protests work out. But it is worth pointing out that in mainland China, which all these are supposed to affect ultimately, frankly speaking, the event is mostly over. Since GZTV has formally rejected the proposal, it is “issue resolved”. They There may be sporadic information about those protests spread via (micro)blogs, but their influence will be minor as media coverage will likely be suppressed as usual. Kxx (talk | contribs) 06:19, 28 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The current title is good enough since it deals straight on with the issue. The "Protests against suppression of Cantonese speaking tradition" which Guangzhou Mayor denies, is kinda too extreme, that title would work if the government forbids any Cantonese- speaking TV, activities, or just general day to day Yue Chinese conversation in Guangdong, China.--LLTimes (talk) 15:44, 28 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
the title using now Controversy over use of Cantonese by Guangzhou Television is really misleading. Totally it is translated on the opposite meaning of 2010年廣州撐粵語行動. Exactly 广州 is CANTON, 撑粤语 is PROTECTING CANTONESE LANGUAGE SPEAKING, 行动 is ACTIVITIES. --Samatva (talk | contribs) 11:35AM, 23 Nov 2011 (UTC)
I would like change the title to “Activities of protecting mother language Cantonese speaking in Canton 2010”. Just for being honest to the title using in Chinese article.Zungsheungyu (talk) 12:29, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Putonghua established by constitution as official language?[edit]

I cannot access http://www.scmp.com/portal/site/SCMP/menuitem.2af62ecb329d3d7733492d9253a0a0a0/?vgnextoid=25c31f29c28a9210VgnVCM100000360a0a0aRCRD&ss=China&s=News (it shows an Apache error). But according to the cited text, the 1982 constitution obviously says nothing about Putonghua being the official language. It merely says that the state promotes its nationwide use. It is that law that went into effect on Jan 1, 2001 that makes Putonghua official. Kxx (talk | contribs) 05:15, 28 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This article is still searchable in scmp archive by title "Cantonese faces fresh threat in its birthplace" from July 7 2010. It has no url anymore, like most archived articles. That article list 1982 as when mandarin was official. Over in zh-yue.wikipedia.org a source listed Feb 1955. It depends on what counts as the language being official. Benjwong (talk) 04:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Kxx, the "Law" of PRC does not mean anything, this regime would say something one day, but do the exact opposite the next day. They do not understand 'Law', they only understand 'Power'. Arilang talk 05:24, 28 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
On Wikipedia it is all about WP:VERIFIABILITY, not what really happens. Kxx (talk | contribs) 05:31, 28 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Arilang, I suggest toning down on your personal hatred against the PRC government. Neutral point of view --LLTimes (talk) 15:51, 28 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
User:LLTimes. there is no such things as "personal hatred against the PRC government", there is nothing to do with "hate", which is an emotion. Arilang talk 03:45, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This comment was nothing compared to the comments at the HK discuss forum. Which had about 32,000 read-count in just a few hours before the thread got deleted. It was so heated, I was hitting refresh on my browser every 5 seconds and the read-count never stopped increasing. Benjwong (talk) 03:55, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Benjwong, what is the URL? Arilang talk 06:21, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

HK disconnecting from GD?[edit]

Only 1 HK TV station today talked about this event. It was ranked maybe 8th or 9th in the order of news. And the event was so rushed, it was talked about for 1 minute. I really think HK no longer wants anything to do with Guangdong. We need some sources on this "disconnect". Benjwong (talk) 01:50, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

article in SCMP[edit]

check out an article published in today's edition: Chang Ping (Aug 26, 2010). "Cultural squeeze", South China Morning Post. Ohconfucius ¡digame! 09:27, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This commentary piece is certainly an interesting read. But should its ideas be incorporated? Kxx (talk | contribs) 12:00, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Text available here. Kxx (talk | contribs) 12:03, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Support the Cantonese language and culture![edit]

How can the Cantonese culture and language be protected? Protect Cantonese Yuet!

粵族點樣保持廣東文化同埋粵語? Protect Cantonese Yuet! 我哋粵族點至可以保互我哋嘅廣東文化同埋粵語? 諗 楚啲我嘅辦法,就係: How can we, the Cantonese people protect our Cantonese culture and Cantonese language. Thinking deeper I have found many ways.These are thhe following:

1. 最緊要係粵族人民每日學講,學讀,學寫,學唱,學諗真正嘅粵語. 乜野叫做真正嘅粵語? 真正嘅粵語係包埋廣州話,台山話,廣西粵語,海外廣東話,奧門同香港廣東話,同埋所有嘅粵語. 粵語唔係普通話嘅細佬. 粵語唔係普通話嘅方言. 粵語係真正嘅語言,紙不過粵族冇自己嘅民主國家,好似西臧人噉樣. 紙不過我哋粵族唔鐘意,唔可以寫真正嘅粵語. 我哋紙係寫中國國語, 嚮日常生活紙係講粵語. 真係好慘中國唔俾粵族學講,學讀,學寫,學唱,學諗真正嘅粵語: 繁體粵語,簡體粵語,香港粵拼(jyut ping),Yale 粵語, 香港劉石拼音,廣州Penk Jamp 粵語或第樣粵語拉丁拼音字全部都係真正嘅粵語. 粵語係一個世界嘅語言. 唔正祇粵族會講粵語, 客家人,潮洲人,閩南人,同埋所有嘅海外華南人都會識講粵語. 粵語同埋粵文化有多過兩千年嘅歷史.

The most important is that the Cantonese people should everyday learn to speak, to read, to write and to sing and to think with real Cantonese. What is real Cantonese? Real Cantonese include Cantonese from Canton city, from Toishan, from Guangxi andoverseas Cantonese, but also Cantonese from Macau and Hong Kong. The Cantonese language is not a little cousin of the Putonghua or Mandarin Chinese. The Cantonese language is not a dialect of Mandarin Chinese. The Cantonese language or dialect is a real language, but unfortunately the Cantonese people do not have their own democratic country. In this sense the Cantonese people are like the Tibetan people. But it seems that the Cantonese people do not like or are not allowed to write real Cantonese. We Cantonese people are supposed to write the standard language, while our daily live we use to speak Cantonese. It is really a drama that China does not allow the Cantonese people to learn, to read, to write and to think with real Cantonese. Real Cantonese is Cantonese written with traditional Chinese, simplified Chinese, Hong Kong Jyut Ping, Yale Cantonese, Hong Kong Sidney Lau, Canton Penk Jamp or any other Cantonese ping jam systems. The Cantonese language is really a world language. It is not only spoken by the Cantonese people themselves, also Hakka people, Teochew and Minnan people and many of the overseas South Chinese do speak Cantonese. The Cantonese language and culture has a history of more than two thousand years.

2. 我哋粵族千其冇靠呢個北方國語文化,普通話. 點解呢? 因為北方漢字唔係幾啱我哋粵族. 如果我哋繼續用中國國語,噉我哋 粵族表達唔到我哋粵族嘅諗法同睇法. 國語唔係代表粵文化. The Cantonese people should not rely on the Northern Chinese culture. Why not? Because the Northern Chinese characters are not suitable for the Cantonese people. If the Cantonese people continues to use the standard Chinese language, then the Cantonese people cannot express the Cantonese way of thinking and doing. The Chinese Mandarin is not presentative of the Cantonese language.

3. 我哋粵族一定要教我哋嘅仔女講讀寫唱諗真正嘅粵語. 嚮任何國家嘅粵族都應該要愛我哋嘅粵語文化,粵語字. 用多的粵語細 蚊仔歌黎教我哋仔女講粵語. 粵族要多的寫粵語書,即話用粵字. The Cantonese people must teach their children to speak, to write, to sing and to thing with Cantonese language. Every Cantonese all over the world should love their own Cantonese language and culture and the Cantonese characters. The Cantonese people should use Cantonese children songs to learn Cantonese to their children. The Cantonese people should write more books in Cantonese, using Cantonese characters.

4. 南方嘅粵族,客族,閩族應該要合作保持大家嘅文化同語言. 族除左講粵語,應該要理解第種南方語言. 粵族係跟和平民主嘅方 法黎同第種民族交際. The Cantonese people, the Hakka people and the Min people should cooperate and together protect their culture and languages. The Cantonese should also understand the positions of the other Southern Chinese languages. We Cantonese people really are a peaceful people who wants to exchange culture with other peoples.

5. 祈禱上帝會救我哋粵族. 我本人係信耶蘇基督. 我真係相信佢會救倒我哋粵族人. 耶蘇成日講上帝嘅天國嚟緊. 我哋粵族值 唔值得俾北方普人蝦? 梗係唔值得啦! 我哋唔係二等市民. 我哋粵人要捱到幾時啦? 我哋粵族真係有權做個民明民族. 佢哋北方 普人成日蝦我哋南方粵族. 佢哋檔我係哋係狗,係馬騮,檔粵族唔係人. 唔明佢哋嘅諗法. 話知佢哋啦. 冇理佢哋咯. 我哋粵族 不如睇真啲:耶穌基督永遠都會愛我哋粵族,無論你係信,定係你唔信佢. 北方普人唔鐘意我哋南方粵族,但係耶穌會鐘意我哋粵族. 祝福我哋粵族! Pray that God will save the Cantonese people. I myself believe in Jesus Christ. I really believe that Jesus will save the Cantonese people. Jesus always says that the kingdom of heaven will come. Do the Cantonese people have to be bullied and hated by the Nothern Mandarin Chinese? Of course not. We are not a second class citizen of china. How long does the Cantonese people have to suffer? The Cantonese people really has the right to be a civilized people. The Chinese from Nothern China always hate the Southern Cantonese. They consider us to be dogs, to be monkeys. They do not consider us to be human. I do not understand their way of thinking. Let it be. do not focus on them. We, the Cantonese people, should have to think deeper: Jesus Christ will always love the Cantonese people, whether you believe this or do not believe in Jesus. The Northern Mandarin Chinese do not like the Southern Cantonese, but Jesus will always love the Cantonese people. God bless the Cantonese people!

6. 紀念兩週年撑粵語喐動(2010年7月25號). 教訓我哋全世界嘅粵族人撑粵語,黃飛鴻撑粵語: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2by2y3gkjcA&feature=fvst Remember the Canton support movement for the Cantonese language (July 25 2010). Wong Fei Hung Youtube song will learn the Cantonese people all over the world to support the Cantonese langauge.

7. 愛粵族容唔容易?粵族兄弟姊妹朋友呀, 愛粵族係唔容易啦. 信耶穌都係唔容易啦.響呢個粵語小冊路加福音書(1883年)穌教我地: 應該盡性,盡力,盡意愛主你既上帝,又愛鄰舍好似自己(路加福音10:27). 點解敢樣講呢個說話呢? 耶穌教我地愛佢, 愛人. 愛人就係一個好事,定係我地有時要選擇唔愛人, 或者憎人. 好似愛老婆老公噉樣. 愛仔女,愛女男朋友亦都係好自然. 愛係好,憎係唔好既. 耶穌都想我地愛. 支那北方佬有空制我地粵族超過一之兩千年, 我地就點樣愛支那佬? 我諗耶穌既教訓有好多道理. 跟據路加福音10:27我地應該要愛我地既粵族,廣東人,香港奧門人. 所以我噉樣講畀你地呢個說話: 應該盡性,盡力,盡意愛粵族我地既民族,又愛鄰舍好似自己. 祝福我地粵族兄弟姊妹朋友呀. 粵橋. 2012年11月9號.粵橋 Is it easy to love the Cantonese people? Dear Cantonese brother and sisters, it is not eady to love the Cantonese people. It is also not easy to believe in Jesus. Jesus learned us in the Cantonese bible book of Luke (1883 version) that: You should love the Lord with all your heart, all your strength and all your mind, but also love your neighbour as well as yourself (Luke 10:27). Why do I have to tell this? Jesus wants us to love Him, to love other people. To love people is really a good thing, or can we also choose not to love somebody, or hate somebody. Like loving our husband or our wife. Loving our children or loving our boy or girl friend is also natural. Love is good, hating is not good. Jesus wants us to love. The Northern Chinese people have been controlling the Cantonese people over more than two thousand years. How can we love the Northern Chinese people? I really think that the teachings of Jesus has many good things. Based on Luke 10:27 we should love our Cantonese people including the Cantonese from Hong Kong and Macau. Therefore I would like to share this with you: You should love the Cantonese people with all your heart, all your strength and all your mind, but also love your neighbour as well as yourself. Bless the Cantonese people, the Cantonese brother, sisters and friends. Yuet Kiuh, November 9, 2012.

8.我哋講粵語嘅人喺任何國家應該要成立粵語班。點解呢？ 粵語係我哋嘅母語。普通話唔係我哋嘅 母語。粵族民族唔係支那嘅奴隸。 我哋唔係二等市民。我哋係直得做一個大民族，粵族。喺全世界粵 嚟粵小粵語班。係米啲粵人方棄粵語班，定係啲支那佬想洗埋粵人嘅 腦？ 我哋千其冇方棄粵語班 ！愛粵語，粵族嘅人 應該要盡心，盡力，盡意成立粵語班。學講粵語，學寫粵語，認識我哋嘅粵語文 化。 祝福我哋嘅大粵民族！ 2012年12月14號。粵橋。 The Cantonese people all around the world should establish Cantonese schools. Why? The Cantonese language is the motherlanguage of the Cantonese. Mandarin Chinese or Putonghua is not the motherlanguage of the Cantonese people. The Cantonese people are not slaves of the Chinese. We are not a second class people. We earn to be a real big people. Nowadays, the number of Cantonese schools are become less and less. Are the Cantonese people giving up Cantonese education or are the Chinese people brainwashing the Cantonese people? We should never give up Cantonese education. Those who love the Cantonese language, love the Cantonese people should set up Cantonese schools with all their heart, all their streng and all their mind. To learn to speak Cantonese, write Cantonese, and reunite with our Cantonese language and culture. Bless the great Cantonese people. December 14, 2012. Yuet Kiuh.

9. 新年快樂！ 粵獨進步！ 粵橋。 2013年1月1日。 0:45 am. Happy new year! Supporting the Cantonese people!

Cantonese 粵拼:

jyut6 zuk6 dim2 joeng2 bou2 ci4 gwong2 dung1 man4 faa3 tung4 maai4 jyut6 jyu5 ? Protect Cantonese Yuet!

ngo5 dei6 jyut6 zuk6 dim2 zi3 ho2 ji5 bou2 wu6 ngo5 dei6 ge3 gwong2 dung1 man4 faa3 tung4 maai4 jyut6 jyu5 ? nam2 cing1 co2 di1 ngo5 dou1 wan2 dou2 ng5 go3 baan6 faat3 ,zau6 hai6 :

1. zeoi3 gan2 jiu3 hai6 jyut6 zuk6 jan4 man4 mui5 jat6 hok6 gong2 ,hok6 duk6 ,hok6 se2 ,hok6 coeng3 ,hok6 nam2 zan1 zing3 ge3 jyut6 jyu5. mat1 je5 giu3 zou6 zan1 zing3 ge3 jyut6 jyu5 ? zan1 zing3 ge3 jyut6 jyu5 hai6 baau1 maai4 gwong2 zau1 waa2 toi4 saan1 waa2 ,gwong2 sai1 jyut6 jyu5 ,hoi2 ngoi6 gwong2 dung1 waa2, ngou3 mun42 tung4 hoeng1 gong2 gwong2 dung1 waa2 ,tung4 maai4 so2 jau5 ge3 jyut6 jyu5 . jyut6 jyu5 m4 hai6 pou2 tung1 waa2 ge3 sai3 lou2 . jyut6 jyu5 m4 hai6 pou2 tung1 waa2 ge3 fong1 jin4 . jyut6 jyu5 hai6 zan1 zing3 ge3 jyu5 jin4 ,zi2 bat1 gwo3 jyut6 zuk6 mou5 zi6 gei2ge3 man4 zyu2 gwok3 gaa1 ,hou2 ci5 sai1 zong5 jan4 gam2 joeng2 . zi2 bat1 gwo3 ngo5 dei6 jyut6 zuk6 m4 zung1 ji3 ,m4 ho2 ji5 se2 zan1 zing3 ge3 jyut6 jyu5 . ngo5 dei6 zi2 hai6 se2 zung1 gwok3 gwok3 jyu5 , hoeng2 jat6 soeng4 sang1 wut6 zi2 hai6 gong2 jyut6 jyu5 . zan1 hai6 hou2 caam2 zung1 gwok3 m4 bei2 jyut6 zuk6 hok6 gong2 ,hok6 duk6,hok6 se2, hok6 coeng3 ,hok6 nam2 zan1 zing3 ge3 jyut6 jyu5 : faan4 tai2 jyut6 jyu5 ,gaan2 tai2 jyut6 jyu5 ,hoeng1 gong2 jyut6 ping3 (jyut ping),Yale jyut6 jyu5 , hoeng1 gong2 lau4 sek6 ping3 jam1 ,gwong2 zau1 Penk Jamp jyut6 jyu5 waak6 dai6 joeng2 jyut6 jyu5 laai1 ding1 ping3 jam1 zi6 cyun4 bou6 dou1 hai6 zan1 zing3 ge3 jyut6 jyu5 . jyut6 jyu5 hai6 jat1 go3 sai3 gaai3 ge3 jyu5 jin4 . m4 zing3 zi2 jyut6 zuk6 wui6 gong2 jyut6 jyu5 , haak3 gaa1 jan4 , ciu4 zau1 jan4,man5 naam4 jan4 ,tung4 maai4 so2 jau5 ge3 hoi2 ngoi6 waa4 naam4 jan4 dou1 wui6 sik1 gong2 jyut6 jyu5 . jyut6 jyu5 tung4 maai4 jyut6 man4 faa3 jau5 do1 gwo3 loeng5 cin1 nin4 ge3 lik6 si2 .

2. ngo5 dei6 jyut6 zuk6 cin1 kei4 mou5 kaau3 ni1 go3 bak1 fong1 gwok3 jyu5 man4 faa3 ,pou2 tung1 waa2 . dim2 gaai2 ne1? jan1 wai6 bak1 fong1 hon3 zi6 m4 hai6 gei2 ngaam1 ngo5 dei6 jyut6 zuk6 . jyu4 gwo2 ngo5 dei6 gai3 zuk6 jung6 zung1 gwok3 gwok3 jyu5 ,gam2 ngo5 dei6 jyut6 zuk6 biu2 daat6 m4 dou2 ngo5 dei6 jyut6 zuk6 ge3 nam2 faat3 tung4 tai2 faat3 . gwok3 jyu5 m4 hai6 doi6 biu2 jyut6 man4 faa3 .

3. ngo5 dei6 jyut6 zuk6 jat1 ding6 jiu3 gaau3 ngo5 dei6 ge3 zai2 neoi2 gong2 duk6 se2 coeng3 nam2 zan1 zing3 ge3 jyut6 jyu5 . hoeng2 jam6 ho4 gwok3 gaa1 ge3 jyut6 zuk6 ou1 jing1 goi1 jiu3 oi3 ngo5 dei6 ge3 jyut6 jyu5 man4 faa3 ,jyut6 jyu5 zi6 . jung6 do1 di1 jyut6 jyu5 sai3 man1 zai2 go1 lai4 gaau3 ngo5 dei6 zai2 neoi2 gong2 jyut6 jyu5 . jyut6 zuk6 jiu3 do1 di1 se2 jyut6 jyu5 syu1 ,zik1 waa6 jung6 jyut6 zi6 .

4. naam4 fong1 ge3 jyut6 zuk6 ,haak3 zuk6 , man5 zuk6 jing1 goi1 jiu3 hap6 zok3 bou2 ci4 daai6 gaa1 ge3 man4 faa3 tung4 jyu5 jin4 . jyut6 zuk6 ceoi4 zo2 gong2 jyut6 jyu5 ,jing1 goi1 jiu3 lei5 gaai2 dai6 zung2 naam4 fong1 jyu5 jin4 . jyut6 zuk6 hai6 gan1 wo4 ping4 tung4 man4 zyu2 ge3 fong1 faat3 lai4 tung4 dai6 zung2 man4 zuk6 gaau1 zai3 .

5. kei4 tou2 soeng6 dai3 wui6 gau3 ngo5 dei6 jyut6 zuk6 . ngo5 bun2 jan4 hai6 seon3 je4 sou1 gei1 duk1 . ngo5 zan1 hai6 soeng1 seon3 keoi5 wui6 gau3 dou2 ngo5 dei6 jyut6 zuk6 jan4 . je4 sou1 seng4 jat6 gong2 soeng6 dai3 ge3 tin1 gwok3 lai4 gan2 . ngo5 dei6 jyut6 zuk6 zik6 m4 zik6 dak1 bei2 bak1 fong1 pou2 jan4 haa1 ? gang2 hai6 m4 zik6 dak1 laa1! ngo5 dei6 m4 hai6 ji6 dang2 si5 man4 . ngo5 dei6 jyut6 jan4 jiu3 ngaai4 dou3 gei2 si4 laa1? ngo5 dei6 jyut6 zuk6 zan1 hai6 jau5 kyun4 zou6 go3 man4 ming4 man4 zuk6 . keoi5 dei6 bak1 fong1 pou2 jan4 seng4 jat6 haa1 ngo5 dei6 naam4 fong1 jyut6 zuk6 . keoi5 dei6 dong3 ngo5 hai6 dei6 hai6 gau2 ,hai6 maa5 lau1 , dong3 jyut6 zuk6 m4 hai6 jan4. m4 ming4 keoi5 dei6 ge3 nam2 faat3 . waa6 zi1 keoi5 dei6 llaa3 . mou5 lei5 keoi5 dei6 lok3. ngo5 dei6 jyut6 zuk6 bat1 jyu4 tai2 zan1 di1 :je4 sou1 gei1 duk1 wing5 jyun5 dou1 wui6 oi3 ngo5 dei6 jyut6 zuk6 ,mou4 leon6 nei5 hai6 seon3 ,ding6 hai6 nei5 m4 seon3 keoi5 . bak1 fong1 pou2 jan4 m4 zung1 ji3 ngo5 dei6 naam4 fong1 jyut6 zuk6 ,daan6 hai6 je4 sou1 wui6zung1 ji3 ngo5 dei6 jyut6 zuk6 . zuk1 fuk1 ngo5 dei6 jyut6 zuk6 !

6. gei2 nim6 loeng5 zau1 nin4 chaang3 jyut6 jyu5 juk1 dung6 (2010 nin4 7 jyut6 25 hou6. gaau3 fan3 ngo5 dei6 cyun4 sai3 gaai3 ge3 jyut6 zuk6 jan4 chaang3 jyut6 jyu5 ,wong4 fei1 hung4 chaang3 jyut6 jyu5 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2by2y3gkjcA&feature=fvst

7. oi3 jyut6 zuk6 jung4 {m4 ng4} jung4 ji6 ?jyut6 zuk6 hing1 dai6 zi2 mui2 pang4 jau5 a3 , oi3 jyut6 zuk6 hai6 {4 jung4 ji6 laa3 . seon3 je4 sou1 dou1 hai6 m4 jung4 ji6 laa3 .hoeng2 ni1 go3 jyut6 jyu5 siu2 caak3 {lou6 gaa1 fuk1 jam1 syu1 (1883nin4 )sou1 {gaau3 gaau1} ngo5 dei6 : jing1 goi1 zeon6 sing3 ,zeon6 lik6 , zeon6 ji3 oi3 zyu2 nei5 gei3 soeng6 dai3 ,jau6 oi3 leon4 se3 hou2 ci5 zi6 gei2 ( lou6 gaa1 fuk1 jam1 10:27). dim2 gaai2 gam2 joeng2} gong2 ni1 go3 syut3 waa6 ne1 ? je4 sou1 gaau3 ngo5 dei6 oi3 keoi5 , oi3 jan4 . oi3 jan4 zau6 hai6 jat1 go3 hou2 si6 ,ding6 hai6 ngo5 dei6 jau5 si4 jiu3 syun2 zaak6 m4 oi3 jan4 , waak6 ze2 zang1 jan4 . hou2 ci5 oi3 lou5 po4 lou5 gung1 gam2 joeng2 . oi3 zai2 neoi2 ,oi3 neoi5 naam4 pang4 jau5 jik6 dou1 hai6 hou2 zi6 jin4 . oi3 hai6 hou2 ,zang1 hai6 m4 hou2 ge3 .je4 sou1 dou1 soeng2 ngo5 dei6 oi3 . zi1 naa5 bak1 fong1 lou2 jau5 hung1 zai3 ngo5 dei6 jyut6 zuk6 ciu1 gwo3 jat1 zi1 loeng5 cin1 nin4 , ngo5 dei6 zau6 dim2 joeng2 oi3 zi1 naa5 lou2 ? ngo5 nam2 je4 sou1 ge3 gaau3 fan3 jau5 hou2 do1 dou6 lei5 . gan1 geoi3 lou6 gaa1 fuk1 jam1 10:27 ngo5 dei6 jing1 goi1 jiu3 oi3 ngo5 dei6 ge3 jyut6 zuk6 ,gwong2 dung1 jan4 ,hoeng1 gong2 ou3 mun2 jan4 . so2 ji5 ngo5 gam2 joeng2 gong2 bei2 nei5 dei6 ni1 go3 syut3 waa6 : jing1 goi1 zeon6 sing3 ,zeon6 lik6 , zeon6 ji3 oi3 jyut6 zuk6 ngo5 dei6 gei3 man4 zuk6 ,jau6 oi3 leon4 se3 hou2 ci5 zi6 gei2 . zuk1 fuk1 ngo5 dei6 jyut6 zuk6 hing1 dai6 zi2 mui6*2 pang4 jau5 aa3 . Jyut6 Kiu4 . 2012nin4 11jyut6 9 hou6.Jyut6 Kiu4

8. ngo5 dei6 gong2 jyut6 jyu5 ge3 jan4 hai2 jam6 ho4 gwok3 gaa1 jing1 goi1 jiu3 sing4 laap6 jyut6 jyu5 baan1 。dim2 gaai2 ne1 ？ jyut6 jyu5 hai6 ngo5 dei6 ge3 mou5 jyu5 。pou2 tung1 waa2 m4 hai6 ngo5 dei6 ge3 mou5 jyu5 。jyut6 zuk6 man4 zuk6 m4 hai6 zi1 naa5 lo2 ge3 nou4 dai6 。ngo5 dei6 m4 hai6 ji6 dang2 si5 man4 。ngo5 dei6 hai6 zik6 dak1 zou6 jat1 go3 daai6 man4 zuk6 ，jyut6 zuk6 。hai2 cyun4 sai3 gaai3 jyut6 lai4 jyut6 siu2 jyut6 jyu5 baan1 。hai6 mai5 di1 jyut6 jan4 fong1 hei3 jyut6 jyu5 baan1 ，ding6 hai6 di1 zi1 naa5 lou2 soeng2 sai2 maai4 jyut6 jan4 ge3 nou5 ？ ngo5 dei6 cin1 kei4 mou5 fong1 hei3 jyut6 jyu5 baan1！oi3 jyut6 jyu5 ，jyut6 zuk6 ge3 jan4 jing1 goi1 jiu3 zeon6 sam1 ，zeon6 lik6 ， zeon6 ji3 sing4 laap6 jyut6 jyu5 baan1 。hok6 gong2 jyut6 jyu5 ，hok6 se2 jyut6 jyu5 ，jing6 sik1 ngo5 dei6 ge3 jyut6 jyu5 man4 faa3 。 zuk1 fuk1 ngo5 dei6 ge3 daai6 jyut6 man4 zuk6 ！ 2012 nin4 12 jyut6 14 hou6 。jyut6 kiu4 kiu4.

9. san1 nin4 faai3 lok6 ！jyut6 duk6 zeon3 bou6 ！jyut6 kiu4。2013 nin4 1 jyut6

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