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What was this sentence intended to convey? Perhaps there is a ‘not’ missing, but I couldn’t quite guess where.

‘Although it retains military status unlike the Carabinieri it is part of the Italian Armed Forces.’

Ian Spackman (talk) 20:04, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect VAT receipt legislation information

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"... failure to produce [a VAT receipt] can lead to a substantial fine on the customer as well as the seller[1]"

This is no longer the case. The costumers no longer incurs in a fine as of 2003. This fine was part of Decreto Legislativo n. 471, December 18th 1997, art. 11, comma 6 (source: http://www.camera.it/parlam/leggi/deleghe/testi/97471dl.htm) This was abrogated by Decreto-legge n.269, September 30th 2003, art. 33, comma 16 (source(pdf): http://www.camera.it/parlam/leggi/decreti/03269d3.pdf)

I changed the quoted line in the wiki article to reflect this change. I added the decree's pdf as a reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.56.85.173 (talk) 15:57, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 25 April 2015

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Favonian (talk) 09:45, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]


Guardia di Finanza → ? (by moving or by history-merging).This history-merge request was made in Wikipedia:Requests for history merge#New requests:-

Guardia di Finanza cut-and-pasted into Financial Guard (Italy), but correct title should be Guardia di Finanza, per 2007 consensus at Talk:Guardia di Finanza/Archive 1 (en.wiki page ID #1589816, edit [1]). Apparently a bunch of vandalism, moves against consensus, and cut-paste "moves", both before and for a few months after the 2007 discussion, resulting in possibly parallel histories for Guardia di Finanza (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) and Financial Guard (Italy) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), and making the latter's history appear out of nowhere starting with a page blanking somehow; so maybe some of the history should be merged and some should not. Mesoso2 (talk · contribs) seems to have caused most of the flip-flopping by moving the page repeatedly and, when he couldn't anymore, doing a forced cut-paste on 2014-12-12. Financial Guard (Italy) has since had removals and some minor edits, but no major additions. --Closeapple (talk) 04:09, 25 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I have moved:-
  1. Guardia di Finanza (non-deleted edits) to Guardia di Finanza (version 2)
  2. Guardia di Finanza (deleted edits) to Guardia di Finanza (version 3)
  3. Financial Guard (Italy) to Guardia di Finanza
Thanks. What a mess! --Closeapple (talk) 14:37, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Now Keep at Guardia di Finanza, per old requested move discussion and related talk at Talk:Guardia di Finanza/Archive 1. Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English) specifies that an article name should be the version in most common use in English, not the most English-like in English. "Guardia di Finanza" is overwhelmingly the most common name in English use, and there is no other common name in English:
    • A Google search for "Guardia di Finanza" English reports about 305,000 results; "Financial Guard" reports about 29,500 results total, and very few of them even have anything to do with the Italians.
    • The organization itself uses "Guardia di Finanza" as its English name. "Combatting Fraud by Educating With New Communication Tools" (PDF). Rome, Italy: European Anti-Fraud Office (OLAF). 2013. Retrieved 2015-04-27. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help) This English document, co-sponsored by the GdF, and with the GdF coat of arms at the top, refers to the organization solely as the "Guardia di Finanza" throughout, including the note "Interpretation from/into English, Italian and French will be provided by Guardia di Finanza. The workshop session will be conducted in English only." The GdF's own English web page about its police academy refers to the organization as "The Tax Police School of Guardia di Finanza".
    • Interpol's Italy profile uses the translated English names "Minister of Interior" and "Department of Public Security" and "Chief of Police - Director General of Public Security" and yet explicitly uses the name "Guardia di Finanza" in English text.
    • Even as far back as 1907, a review of articles in foreign publications by the Royal United Service Institution Journal translates a German article title as "The Italian Guardia di Finanza".
    • There is no standard "English-like" translation of this name. Attempts at English translations of "Guardia di Finanza" are scattered and varied. For example: Oxford Dictionaries has "guardia di finanza" and does not translate it, but instead defines its meaning. An attorney's curriculum vitae lists experience as "He served as an Officer for the Italian Tax Police (Guardia di Finanza)". --Closeapple (talk) 14:37, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep at Guardia di Finanza, per Closeapple's sound and accurate analysis. Cavarrone 06:20, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep at Guardia di Finanza. Nobody calls it the Financial Guard. We do not translate names for the hell of it, but only if the English version is commonly seen. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:32, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep at Guardia di Finanza by use it has become the English name so doesnt need to be translated. MilborneOne (talk) 18:21, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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