Talk:HMCS Karluk

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Builder[edit]

In the ship infobox the builder is noted as 'Built Benicia, California, USA'. Is there enough evidence to state it was built at the Pacific Mail Steamship Company which was (is?) located at Benicia, California? --HJKeats (talk) 15:05, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Builder not listed in cited sources; no mention of building in in Lewis & Drydon, Tacoma Public Library database. have not ried Miramar due to need for subscription.Dankarl (talk) 16:17, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am researching the history of the Karluk 1884-1912 and according to Lloyd's 1909/1910 and the miramar site the builder is M.Turner of Benicia, which is probably Matthew Turner's shipyard, see http://www.noehill.com/solano/cal0973.asp --Cippy72 (talk) 18:35, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"the Aleut word for fish"[edit]

The article says that the ship was built as "a tender for the Aleutian fishing industry (karluk is the Aleut word for "fish")."

According to the source below, the name is from Alutiiq language, not Aleut language. Here's an excerpt describing the etymology of Karluk, Alaska, an indigenous fishing settlement:

"Although the early Karluk inhabitants heavily relied on the nearby marine resources in Shelikof Strait, they also settled beside the river and lake because abundant runs of sockeye salmon provided them with a dependable, nutrient-rich, food source. Fittingly, the name “Karluk” is derived from the Alutiiq word "iqalluk," a term used for fish. Fresh salmon could be caught in the river for at least half of the year, and by drying and storing these fish, sufficient provisions could be easily secured for later use in winter and early spring when adult salmon were absent. It appears that these early subsistence harvests of sockeye salmon were easily supplied by the profuse annual runs, even though early human populations in the Karluk vicinity may have approached 1,000 (Lisiansky, 1814). And yet, human reliance on Karluk’s salmon undoubtedly varied over the millennia as long-term climatic changes affected the productive capacity of marine and freshwater food sources (Knecht, 1995; Finney et al., 2002). "

From Ch1 p3 of

Gard, Richard, and Richard Lee Bottorff. 2014. A History of Sockeye Salmon Research, Karluk River System, Alaska, 1880–2010. U.S. Dept. of Commer. NOAA Technical Memorandum NMFS-F/SPO-125, 413 p. https://spo.nmfs.noaa.gov/karluk.htm
and an actual working link at https://spo.nmfs.noaa.gov/sites/default/files/tm125.pdf