Talk:HMS Caledonia (1862)

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Infobox image is probably a misidentified image of HMS Lord Warden.[edit]

Comparing the ship in the infobox photo to the plans and photos in Oscar Parkes' reference work British Battleships, this ship is clearly not HMS Caledonia or any other Prince Consort-class ironclad. This ship has a strongly curved bow; the Prince Consort class had a straight bow. This ship has both funnels in front of the main (central) mast. The Prince Consort class had one funnel in front of and one behind the main mast. According to Parkes' book, this ship's funnel locations and its curved bow (with projecting head) match Lord Warden.

In fact, looking at the web page from which this image was taken, it looks like two pictures simply got swapped. That page also has an image, labeled HMS Lord Warden, which shows a ship that looks like a Prince Consort and is probably Caledonia, just as this "HMS Caledonia" image seems to show Lord Warden. Since that other image is currently our Commons image for the Lord Warden, it should be swapped with this one.

(See also my discussion entry for HMS Lord Warden's infobox image.)

--Colin Douglas Howell (talk) 13:41, 13 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Looking into this a bit further, the original source of the swapped identification seems to be the publication from which the photos were taken, page 81 of the June 25, 1897 issue of The Navy & Army Illustrated. --Colin Douglas Howell (talk) 03:07, 16 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Image renamed, text corrected, linking pages corrected. Rcbutcher (talk) 23:40, 16 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Dubious[edit]

Article claims that Caledonia was a guardship in the Firth of Forth from 1872-75. However, in 1873 she was being used by the Coastguard at Birkenhead - "Shipping Disasters". Liverpool Mercury. No. 7928. Liverpool. 18 June 1873.. Mjroots (talk) 15:03, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]