Talk:HMS Lively (1756)

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I think that there is an error on this page.

Samuel Hood is described as having first been Commander of HMS Lively, and then as having returned to the Channel Fleet and serving in her as Midshipman.

This would not have happened - a commander was a commissioned officer, whereas a midshipman was a sort of "trainee" officer - a commander would never have reverted to a midshipman.

There is a page for Samuel Hood, 1st Viscount Hood which gives details of his career.

ExiledStokie 10:21, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There are SEVERAL errors on this page - in fact, the whole page needs re-writing! For a start, this Lively was NOT a "sloop of war", it was a Sixth Rate, as indeed were all ships of 20 guns up to 1817. Also it wasn't launched in 1754, but on 10 August 1756 (so the title and links need to be changed). Samuel Hood was never commander of the Lively. And the Lively did not founder off Stornaway - she was laid up at Portsmouth in August 1781, and was sold there on 11 March 1784. Can someone please NOT write articles if they don't know their facts! Rif Winfield (talk) 07:36, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have re-written the article using info from Ships of the Old Navy, but it lacks any specific technical details to quote, or indeed the exact dates you give so a source is needed for those as well. Martocticvs (talk) 10:50, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Phillips's website is very good, but does contain a few errors. Moody Janverin built the Lively at Bursledon on the River Hamble, not on the Beaulieu River. I have added a number of the missing technical details you mentioned; as source material you can quote (as modesty prevents me from so doing) for these, and for the dates and other information added, is British Warships in the Age of Sail: 1714 to 1792 (Rif Winfield, Seaforth Publishing, 2007, ISBN 978-1-84415-700-6). Rif Winfield (talk) 16:00, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]