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SARAWAK[edit]

OK LOHWEETUNG999 (talk) 14:13, 27 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

USN Namesake[edit]

Not sure that I understand the point of "British name assigned in anticipation of ship's transfer to United Kingdom" in the USA section, when I would have expected to discover which/what "Patton" the intended name refers to - or is it not known, in which case why not leave blank. This appears a lot in Tacoma-class frigates, but some have some useful entries, eg USS Halstead (PF-76), USS Pasley (PF-86). Davidships (talk) 22:37, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The ship seems to have been allocated the name HMS Patton at some stage, but served under the name HMS Sarawak. It appears never to have been named USS Patton.Nigel Ish (talk) 22:52, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That's not what the article says: "ordered.....under a United States Navy contract as USS Patton." Then given a different name by the British before her launch. But that was not my point anyway - the "Namesake" field is intended to explain the meaning or origin of the name just above it (as in the British section below) - in most ship articles, if that is not known it is just left blank, not filled with something different.

As for whether she ever used the name Patton, we do not know as there is no information to hand on her name between May 1946 and her sale for scrapping in 1947 (though I would be confident that she was never commissioned during that time). Davidships (talk) 16:12, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Both Friedman and Lenton in American Gunboats and Minesweepers (1974) state that Patton was a British name.Nigel Ish (talk) 16:18, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There seems to be so many question marks about these ships that I am holding off doing anything on them. I see the class page here on wikipedia says " and all but one of them initially received British names – rather than the names of small U.S. cities – while still U.S. Navy ships(my emphasis} with a source of Conways, DANFs and Navsource. Suppose that could be interpreted as they were never USS but rather USNS Lyndaship (talk) 17:07, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks both - that is very helpful, and ties in with USS Halsted and USS Pasley instanced above - British naval officers. Davidships (talk) 01:44, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]