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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by CSJJ104 (talk19:54, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Created by Jeromi Mikhael (talk). Self-nominated at 17:11, 7 August 2022 (UTC).[reply]

It still needs proper attribution. Please see WP:Translation#License requirements -- RoySmith (talk) 11:02, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • The article appears to be properly referenced, but as noted, all of the sources are in Indonesian, so I'm unable to really evaluate them. WP:DYKR requires in this case that I verify the basic facts, or at the very least, the existence of the article subject. I have been unable to find any English language sources which would let me do this. I suspect that this would fail WP:ANYBIO if brought to AfD. Given that article makes negative statements (i.e. the subject being dismissed from his post for cause) in a WP:BLP, this is a serious problem.
  • The BLP question above notwithstanding, I don't see any problems with WP:NPOV per-se.
  • Pinging @Juxlos as someone who has had Indonesian articles appear at DYK and might be able to help with evaluating the article's basic facts.
If the hook is deemed to negative, it might be changed to emphasize that while he was first dsimissed, he shortly afterwards became army spokesperson (which makes the incident seem less grave of a fault). –LordPickleII (talk) 18:41, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Having somebody who can read the sources in the original language sounds like a good idea, thanks. -- RoySmith (talk) 20:20, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Jeromi Mikhael: Ah, I'm not the reviewer, just thought I could help. Btw, you might want to consider adding some Wikipedia:Babel to your (enwiki) userpage, so others can more easily check that you know what you are doing! @RoySmith: The article author has replied above, and I think they know what they are doing. –LordPickleII (talk) 07:31, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • @RoySmith: reading through the Indonesian sources, his dismissal is quite extensively discussed and is a significant part of his notability. Even his appointment to the new post mentions the dismissal incident in length. I'd say it doesn't violate BLP. Juxlos (talk) 07:11, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]