Talk:Havivra Da Ifrile

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"and later joined the circus." WHAT circus??? <eg> 80.136.189.23 06:42, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Barnum & Bailey Circus.67.253.6.24 (talk) 04:47, 10 December 2016 (UTC)DHT[reply]

This person may not even exist... my current Volcano professor states only two people survived, Sylbaris and Leon. Did this person even exist? I'd like to see more proof.

The recent work on the 1902-1905 eruption by Alwyn Scarth, La Catastrophe (2002) a work that delves deeply into source material at the time, does not mention her as a survivor and I am unable to confirm her existance. It is perhaps true that the story is apocryphal, and has simply been repeated until accepted by (some) authors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.163.168.40 (talk) 05:42, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

From what I have been able to find, it appears that Havivra Da Ifrile did survive, but her technical location is undetermined; she was in her brother's boat in a cave according her statements, which technically make her off-land (in the water, on a boat), thus, she did not survive while on land but on sea. In the research I have read, there were a greater number of survivors when the definition of "on land, or in St. Pierre" is expanded. This included a woman who was rescued and able to talk to the rescuers but died some hours later, there was a toddler and her governess on a ship at the dock (when the rest of the passengers and crew died), there were a number of badly burned sailors from various boats in the port (some of whom died within hours or days of rescue) and there were a number of people who survived in Le Carbet, a sort of suburb or village just south of St. Pierre that had a small land ridge that provided some protection. Later eruptions killed more people in the other villages of the island that were not as impacted from the May 8 eruption as well as some 2000 rescue workers from other countries. A truly tragic event that impacted the world in its day as well as has lead volcanic research into the modern era so that such a tragedy might not be experienced by one of us today.<The Article, ''Mount Pélée. Wikipedia. and its references are a great place to start>67.253.6.24 (talk) 04:47, 10 December 2016 (UTC)DHT[reply]