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Far from merely an "Incident"

To say that the events at Hawk's Nest were simply an "incident" where lives were lost to silicosis is ridiculous. Union Carbide as well as the Rinehart and Dennis Construction company were negligent, and led to the murder of over 3,000 people. The amount of silica dust in the mine was 99.99% pure silica, which was known to both Union Carbide and Rinehart and Dennis. These workers who died were burried on private property, and families, as well as those who did not die from the exposure to silica, or suffered from silicosis, were not granted any compensation. The entire "incident" was the greatest American industrial tragedy, yet it receives no recognition, and information is almost impossible to find. Martin Cherniak's book is a wonderful source of information, but unfortunately, it's close to impossible to find. Union Carbide has been negligent in close to 1,000 different cases from 1930-1999 when they were bought out by Dow Chemicals. Another example is the horrific tragedy at Bhopal, India. Those who died at Hawk's Nest were forgotten, and efforts have been made to suppress information about the incident. Everyone should be aware of the atrocities of the Union Carbide corporation. Dr. Cherniak's book is the most valuable source of information available. submitted 5/22/2005 (by unknown user)

I think the label "incident" came from that used by Dr. Cherniak. There was certainly no intention in my contributions to this article to minimize the scope of the harm nor the lack of accountability. Frankly, it is shocking to learn about. In earlier years of development of natural resources, West Virginia has also had many other occurances of harm to workers (ie black lung). Wikipedia is all about providing as much information as possible in the encyclopedic setting. Any suggestions about how can we say more here and stay factual and NPOV? Vaoverland 00:34, May 23, 2005 (UTC)

Motion to change page 'Hawk's Nest Disaster'

I think that may be more appropriate?

Doesn't "disaster" indicate a natural accident such as a ship hitting an iceburg and sinking or a ton of ammunition suddenly blowing-up (Port Chicago disaster)? This incident appears partly human-caused, whether through commission or omission. I don't think the word "incident" diminshes what occured here, and a word like "massacre" is probablly too POV. Any other word suggestions? Cla68 12:22, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

I think I was the original creator, and took the word "incident" from the book and a WV historical marker. I think disasters can be man-made, and I would support changing the name of this article. The scope of it certainly qualifies it with other events we call "disasters". Vaoverland 10:49, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

'Incident' definitly makes this sound too minor. Would 'Tragedy' be better? The Kinslayer 12.12, 10 August 2006

I have no opinion, but keep in mind Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names). —Toby Bartels (talk) 04:00, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

I moved to Hawks Nest Tunnel Disaster as per naming used on West Virginia historical marker at site. Brian Powell (talk) 02:32, 29 July 2008 (UTC)