Talk:Heartland rock/GA1

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GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Seabuckthorn (talk · contribs) 18:02, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator: SabreBD (talk)

Hi! I'll be reviewing this article for GA status, and should have my full review up shortly. It's my second review. I'll be assisted by an experienced Wikipedian. --Seabuckthorn  18:02, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria


The article is very well-written in terms of the prose quality and the reference formatting. It's a very promising candidate. I've few insights to offer.

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose is "clear and concise", without copyvios, or spelling and grammar errors:
    Good
    B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
    See below.
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. Has an appropriate reference section:
    Good
    B. Citation to reliable sources where necessary:
    See below.
    C. No original research:
    Good

Issues with 1b: Definition and notability should be in the first sentence (WP:LEADSENTENCE). I recommend the following revision:

Heartland rock is a genre of rock music that is exemplified by the commercial success of singer-songwriters Bruce Springsteen, Bob Seger, Tom Petty and John Mellencamp. It was characterized by a straightforward musical style, a concern with the average, blue collar American life, and a conviction that rock music has a social or communal purpose beyond just entertainment. It was also associated with a number of country music artists including Steve Earle and Joe Ely, along with less widely known acts such as Southside Johnny & the Asbury Jukes and the Iron City Houserockers. The genre developed in the 1970s and reached its commercial peak in the 1980s, when it became one of the best-selling genres in the United States. In the 1990s, many established acts faded and the genre began to fragment, but the major figures have continued to record with commercial success.
 Done Was browsing through the GA nominees on hold list, thought to lend a helping hand. Ethically (Yours) 16:27, 29 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Issues with 2b: The author of Source 2 is Steve Peake profile. As per WP:RSVETTING, I have the following questions:

  • Who is the author? Is the author an established expert? Google search showed no results on him.
  • The author does not have a Wikipedia article.
  • The author's academic credentials and professional experience are not known.
  • Is the publication about.com reliable in this case?

Is the second source a WP:RS and not a WP:SPS? I recommend removing this source and citing a reliable source. The RS Noticeboard (here) has consensus that about.com is not a RS. All important information that relies on this source will have to either be removed or be cited to a different source.

Another 2b issue: The article says that Springfield's songs were "influenced by 50s rock and roll, Bob Dylan and Phil Spector's Wall of Sound". The source says "A blue-collar fairy tale evoking Phil Spector in its romanticized grandeur and Bob Dylan in its street-corner poetic grit". The source talks about what the album evoked for that reviewer, and not what Springfield used as an influence. I recommend a reparaphrasing to clarify that one reviewer found these links, but to not claim that Springfield intended them.

I am putting this article on Hold for 7 days. If the required issues are dealt with in that time the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. --Seabuckthorn  19:12, 28 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This nomination has been on hold for 7 days. I'm going to fail this nomination due to inactivity. If you resolve the above issues at a later date, feel free to renominate the article for GA status. --Seabuckthorn  14:55, 4 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]