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Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk07:32, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • ... that in 1980s Britain you could buy hedgehog flavoured crisps? "first sold the savoury snacks in printed brown paper bags while he was landlord of the former Vaults public house in Welshpool in the 1980s." from: "Hedgehog Crisps' Welshpool inventor dies, aged 74". Shropshire Star. 28 February 2017. Retrieved 7 August 2021.

Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 09:59, 9 August 2021 (UTC).[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, neutral and plagiarism-free. Hooks are interesting and cited in article. QPQ has been done. Article is good to go. I have no preference over ALT0 and ALT1 as both are interesting. Pamzeis (talk) 11:56, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

To T:DYK/P3

Capitalisation

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@Dumelow: Do you think that the page title (and all uses of "Hedgehog flavour[ed] crisps" as a brand name) should be capitalised? As a proper noun, we should be capitalizing all words in the name, unless there's strong evidence of prevailing usage to the contrary. The lowercased version can still be used as a description, but not a name. — RAVENPVFF · talk · 11:23, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ravenpuff, yes I think you're right. I've made the change and will update the dyk hook- Dumelow (talk) 17:14, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Word Choice

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Is 'gypsy' the correct word choice? I'm unsure on what the manual of style's guideline is, but I know that while back in the 1980s when these were sold 'gyspy' was the most common term, now it varies from "dicey" at best to "just a full on slur" at worst, with my view leaning towards the latter, based off of what some British friends have told me. Pokemonprime (talk) 10:17, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No idea. The wording comes from this 2017 Shropshire Star article, not just the 1984 Evening Standard and the 2007 book (reporting a 1992 Wall Street Journal article) - Dumelow (talk) 11:01, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
As I say, I have no knowledge in this area and the wording only reflects the sources used. However I note there seem to be plenty of organisations representing the community that use the term. Eg. londongypsiesandtravellers.org.uk, gypsy-traveller.org, Leeds Gate: Gypsy and Traveller Exchange, Derbyshire Gypsy Liaison Group etc. - Dumelow (talk) 11:07, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough then, just wanted to raise the concern. Pokemonprime (talk) 11:12, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'd argue that the word 'gypsy' needs to be removed from the article - it's a slur and few people who are part of the community would permit that word to be used, and especially not by people outside of the community. It's considered highly offensive to Roma people. I'm deleting it. [1] [2] Jennesy (talk) 20:17, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, wow, someone beat me to it! Thanks! Jennesy (talk) 20:20, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Both your sources are American. "Gypsy" is the preferred self-designation of many Roma in the UK, as already evidenced by the list of organisations given above. Zacwill (talk) 14:08, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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