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Consider adding third marriage for Heinrich Thyssen's first son

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Per NYT article, Henrik Gábor István Ágost Freiherr Thyssen-Bornemisza de Kászon et Impérfalva had a third marriage to Ingeborg Muller in 1946. However, I cannot find any other source supporting this. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/20/nyregion/baroness-birgit-thyssen-bornemisza.html?te=1&nl=the-morning&emc=edit_nn_20221021 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.218.78.226 (talk) 14:44, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Untitled

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The article is written in the present tense, it should be in the past AFAIK. Gryffindor 00:09, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 17 January 2016

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved. All of the participants (both support and oppose) gave policy-based reasons for their decision, and ultimately more editors believed that common and concise naming was preferable to NCRAN. Number 57 19:32, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Heinrich, Baron Thyssen-Bornemisza de KászonHeinrich Thyssen – Common name. All other wikipedias use it. - üser:Altenmann >t 03:13, 17 January 2016 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 04:22, 25 January 2016 (UTC) Relisted. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:52, 6 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: There seems to be some disagreement here about whether WP:NCRAN applies, and whether it is appropriate to apply the naming policy for British peers to nobility from other countries. Since this is effectively a test case for a matter of broad policy, might it be better to discuss the principles here at an RFC? That path should help establish a broader consensus and a more stable solution.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:59, 6 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
We often put first name then title for German & Austrian noblemen, rather than the reverse, when the article is about the head of the family, as it is in this case. Indeed, with princes, counts and barons, that is the only way to distinguish the pater familias from other family members in English, cf. Fürst and Prinz; the same principle applies to barons. FactStraight (talk) 03:36, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
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