Talk:Henry carbine
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[edit]The article is a summary of this Wiki site, the named sources on that site and some own research. If (german) sources are allowed I will put a best-of into the article page. (The OOU sources are in german language.) Beside of that a redirect to "Henry rifle" is simply wrong. How could we solve it? --Tamarin (talk) 18:18, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
- What German sources are available? A personal site like the "karl-may" site won't work; we'd need something like reputable newspapers, scholarly literary analysis, or the like. Personal or fan websites are not reliable sources as they are not fact-checked or editorially controlled. If you know of a better redirect target, we can certainly use that instead, but reliable, independent, out-of-universe sources are unequivocally required for articles about fictional elements. It is fine if they're not in English so long as they meet reliability standards. Seraphimblade Talk to me 18:29, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
- Tamarin, German sources are fine. Karl May has been called the best selling German author of all time. Here are some sources in English, first for the rifle
- https://centerofthewest.org/2018/06/29/karl-may-henry-carbine-myth/ - project at museum, withlinks to https://wyld.ent.sirsi.net/client/en_US/bbhc/search/results?qu=karl+may&te=&lm=BBHN - museum library holdings on May including Silberbüchse, Bärentöter, Henrystutzen : die berühmtesten Gewehre des Wilden Westens
- Christopher Frayling (2006). "Karl May and the Noble Savage". Spaghetti Westerns: Cowboys and Europeans from Karl May to Sergio Leone. I.B.Tauris. p. 110. ISBN 978-1-84511-207-3.
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- Tamarin, German sources are fine. Karl May has been called the best selling German author of all time. Here are some sources in English, first for the rifle
- And for May in general
- https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2012/04/09/wild-west-germany
- https://www.dw.com/en/the-wonderful-world-of-karl-may-germanys-best-loved-author/a-2765598
- https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/marking-the-100th-anniversary-of-german-cult-author-karl-may-s-death-a-824566.html
- https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/marking-the-100th-anniversary-of-german-cult-author-karl-may-s-death-a-824566-2.html
- Hope this helps. StarryGrandma (talk) 18:50, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
- Sources on Karl May himself are not helpful. He's notable and has an article, but what we need are reliable independent sources about the fictional weapon. Wikis are user-generated and thus are not considered reliable sources. The center of the West ref is a blog, and thus is not considered a reliable source. The Frayling book (pg 106) is just a passing mention of a replica of the gun in a May museum. That's not sufficient to show notability. We really need solid sources to show notability for a fictional weapon. They may exist, but so far we have not seen them. Meters (talk) 03:54, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
- And for May in general