Talk:Herb Pennock/GA1
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Reviewer: TonyTheTiger (talk · contribs) 04:50, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
- I'll do this review.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:50, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
- Philadelphia Athletics
"While pitching at Cedarcroft, Pennock threw a no-hitter to Earle Mack," - add the word catcher to this phrase.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:09, 4 December 2013 (UTC)- Done. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:47, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
Do you know what the waiver price was at the time?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:09, 4 December 2013 (UTC)- $2,500. Added. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:47, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
- Try and work in team season articles for the readers. May 14 with the Athletics could pipe to 1912 Philadelphia Athletics season, 1914 Athletics, Braves and Red Sox.
- Added – Muboshgu (talk) 21:12, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
- The way you have them piped now, they are WP:EASTEREGG. The context of the sentence would lead the reader to believe they are MLB seasons, which would not be bad to pipe. The team season articles should be piped to the team name when it is useful. In this case, the text following the world series is about two specific teams rather than franchises. Most of the team season that you piped in are not natural. I am not just asking you to pipe these. The reader may want to know which teams were playing in that World Series.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:04, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
- I'm trying to rework them. But, I think having a link say "Pittsburgh Pirates", for instance, should go to Pittsburgh Pirates, and not the season in question, because to me, that is an easter egg. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:51, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
- If you sign a multiyear contract with the Pirates it should go to the team article because you are signing with the franchise. However, the world series is not played between franchises, but between particular teams described in team season articles. The context is all a judgement call.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:25, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
- How's this: "The [[1927 New York Yankees season|1927 Yankees]] reached the World Series, facing the [[1927 Pittsburgh Pirates season|1927 Pittsburgh Pirates]]."? – Muboshgu (talk) 19:48, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
- People are going to be edit warring to remove the redundant years unless we do this right. I think leaving the year unpiped for both teams and the World Series is a bit much. You have several other years to do where specific teams are being discussed. I.e., the following year three teams should have articles. I don't think we want to see the year that many times. Open for discussion though.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:03, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
- I don't think we want to see the year that often either, but without it, it becomes an easter egg. When I see Pittsburgh Pirates, I expect it to be [[Pittsburgh Pirates]], not [[1927 Pittsburgh Pirates season|Pittsburgh Pirates]]. I'm not sure what the best method is here. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:24, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
- Let's get all the teams linked that should be and see what it looks like.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:29, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
- Re-piped. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:55, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
- Let's get all the teams linked that should be and see what it looks like.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:29, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
- I don't think we want to see the year that often either, but without it, it becomes an easter egg. When I see Pittsburgh Pirates, I expect it to be [[Pittsburgh Pirates]], not [[1927 Pittsburgh Pirates season|Pittsburgh Pirates]]. I'm not sure what the best method is here. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:24, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
- People are going to be edit warring to remove the redundant years unless we do this right. I think leaving the year unpiped for both teams and the World Series is a bit much. You have several other years to do where specific teams are being discussed. I.e., the following year three teams should have articles. I don't think we want to see the year that many times. Open for discussion though.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:03, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
- How's this: "The [[1927 New York Yankees season|1927 Yankees]] reached the World Series, facing the [[1927 Pittsburgh Pirates season|1927 Pittsburgh Pirates]]."? – Muboshgu (talk) 19:48, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
- If you sign a multiyear contract with the Pirates it should go to the team article because you are signing with the franchise. However, the world series is not played between franchises, but between particular teams described in team season articles. The context is all a judgement call.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:25, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
- I'm trying to rework them. But, I think having a link say "Pittsburgh Pirates", for instance, should go to Pittsburgh Pirates, and not the season in question, because to me, that is an easter egg. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:51, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
- The way you have them piped now, they are WP:EASTEREGG. The context of the sentence would lead the reader to believe they are MLB seasons, which would not be bad to pipe. The team season articles should be piped to the team name when it is useful. In this case, the text following the world series is about two specific teams rather than franchises. Most of the team season that you piped in are not natural. I am not just asking you to pipe these. The reader may want to know which teams were playing in that World Series.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:04, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
- Added – Muboshgu (talk) 21:12, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
- "On Opening Day, Pennock threw a one-hit complete game shutout against the Boston Red Sox." - you know the deal.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:48, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
- Piped. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:35, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
- Boston Red Sox
- "loaned Pennock to the Providence Grays" - was there compensation for this loan?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:09, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
- Not seeing anything on this yet. I'm still looking. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:47, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
- Sources are just saying he was farmed out. Nothing about any compensation.[1] – Muboshgu (talk) 01:54, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
- Team season articles here too.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 08:00, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
- Added – Muboshgu (talk) 21:12, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
- Again piping the team seasons to the season is confusing to the reader. They are more helpful by the World Series, IMO.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:12, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
- Added – Muboshgu (talk) 21:12, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
- New York Yankees
- Please work in Yankee team season articles as well as for WS opponents. These are some tremendously important Yankee teams that he played for.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 08:00, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
- Added – Muboshgu (talk) 21:12, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
- third left-handed pitcher (1st and 2nd?)--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 08:00, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
- Source doesn't say. According to this list, one is Eddie Plank and the second might be Eppa Rixey? Not sure. With the Google News Archive being shut down, it's harder for me to find anything. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:46, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
- Post-playing career
convert $1 million.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 08:07, 5 December 2013 (UTC)- Done. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:24, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
Phillies and Brooklyn Dodgers should have team season articles piped.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 08:07, 5 December 2013 (UTC)- Added – Muboshgu (talk) 21:12, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
- "Though the Yankees defeated the Cardinals in the 1928 World Series" one more.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:48, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
- Piped. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:35, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
I am placing this on hold. I am confident that my concerns can be addressed.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 08:07, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
- Good work! I am going to pass this now.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:01, 20 December 2013 (UTC)