Talk:Hindi pronouns

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21st August 2020[edit]

Have to add compound pronouns. Book: page 80-81

7th November 2020[edit]

@AryamanA: Can you confirm that its always मैंने ही and never मैं ही ने? Also for तूने ही and never तू ही ने. The latter ones sound very odd to me when used with the ergative postposition. Are they ever used? Check the emphatic pronouns in the table. I left the oblique emphatic case blank for तू and मैं. Also like I mention the emphatic for आप as आप ही because I think even though its never written like आफी but it is pronounced like that, treated like a single entity. I do not feel the same happens with मैं ही ने and तू ही ने. Itsmeyash31 (talk) 22:18, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Itsmeyash31: Hi, never got the ping. I agree मैंने ही etc. are what I would say. मैं ही ने sounds very wrong. With a noun it sounds more acceptable आदमी ही ने, but again I would prefer not splitting the case marker. Emphatics look good. I think reflexive needs a mention of अपने आप, not sure how to fit it. Aryaman^A ^{(talk, contribs)} 04:11, 13 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

11th November 2020[edit]

Hello, should this page be renamed Hindustani pronouns and Nastaleeq equivalents added? That seems to be the trend on English Wikipedia, (see Hindustani etymology, Hindustani phonology) rather than have two separate pages called Hindi pronouns and Urdu pronounss.

IntrepidTee (talk) 14:50, 11 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@IntrepidTee: Hey, so I thought of that too initially but the idea that I had in mind was to have a page that uses devanagari script, adding both would, in my view, clutter the page. Also, a major reason is that there are a number of fundamental differences of usage and interpretation of pronouns between Hindi and Urdu. I thought each of them deserve their own section such that info about both standard register of Hindustani could be written without caring about how the other register has it. For example, I added two pronoun tables in this page, one shows case declensions and the other shows postpositional pronoun construction. In Hindi the postpositional pronouns are considered true single pronouns, and not thought of as being a combination of postposition and the oblique case while in Urdu they are. So, an Urdu page maybe would not bother adding another table for postpositional pronouns. The future tense forms in Urdu are also considered to be constructed from the subjunctive and the future particle (gā) while in Hindi they are instead considered conjugations. Similar happens with conjunctive, and prospective/agentive participles. They are not considered participles in Urdu, in Hindi they are. However, if people insist we can later consider renaming the page. Itsmeyash31 (talk) 18:53, 13 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]