Talk:Historiography of the United Kingdom

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The organization of this is weird. Mostly, it seems to classify people by when they were writing. But Gardiner is listed in the section on the Stuarts, rather than on the Victorians. john k (talk) 03:18, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"weird" is an odd complaint. 19 out of 20 are in chronological order. the other one Gardiner can indeed go in the Victorian section but his importance is much clearer where it is. That's because he did not form or belong to a "school" as did most of the 19th-20th century scholars. Rjensen (talk) 03:49, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it makes any sense to include one historian with his subject matter, and everyone else by when they were writing, whether or not Gardiner was part of a school. john k (talk) 15:44, 17 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Urban History[edit]

I have altered this paragraph, to correct some generalisations and having read the separate article on urban history. I am most familiar with the work of WG Hoskins and Malcolm Elliott on Leicester but I am sure there are equally good books on Birmingham, Nottingham, Sheffield, Glasgow etc. and books comparing two or more such cities. Spinney Hill (talk) 10:34, 6 February 2024 (UTC) None of these cities are small so I think "smaller" is better. It seems to me that there are 5 or 6 types of large cities in Britain historically:[reply]

a) London and possibly Edinburgh being capitals, banking and commercial centres and ports . b)The great ports which expanded in the 18th and 19th centuries-- Bristol, Liverpool, Glasgow,Hull, Cardiff, Belfast and Southampton

c) The great industrial centres which grew in those centuries-- Birmingham, Sheffield, Leeds, Bradford, Stoke on Trent

d) Manchester which is based more on trade than industry

e) the medieval centres which just grew more gradually with the aid of trade and industry,---Leicester, Nottingham ,Coventry and possibly Newcastle

f) possibly Plymouth, Portsmouth and Rochester/Chatham/ Gillingham which were intensely connected with the forces.

I think this whole paragraph needs some improvement. Can anyone assist?

Is history written by British historians about foreign cities within the scope of this article?. I am thinking of Jan Morris on Venice, but I am sure there are histories of Rome, Paris, New York, Kolkata and Sydney by British historians.