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Franquism[edit]

The section on Franquism needs editing. Currently:

While the use of Catalan in private was tolerated in the later years of the dictatorship, the immigrants to Barcelona spoke only Spanish. Catalan-language education was unavailable, even if there had been any social pressure to learn the local language (which was far from the case in urban areas).

Two American bloggers (Iberian Notes and Kalebeul) have documented the survival of publishing in Catalan in Barcelona throughout the dictatorship, and adverts for theatre shows in Catalan exist starting in the late 1940s. There is also considerable anecdotal evidence of the spoken use of Catalan in university education during the 1950s. The suggestion that it only began to reemerge in private towards the end is completely absurd.

The number of left-leaning Spanish immigrants who learned Catalan and thrived post-Franco makes a nonsense of the second statement. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.88.64.80 (talk) 15:06, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Jewish Barchinona[edit]

I do not understand the statement "The Jewish population of Barchinona was considerable enough under the reign of Wamba (672–680) to demand a royal edict to expel the Sefardim." What meaning could "Sefardim" have in the seventh century? Needs to be expanded or deleted (it is also unreferenced). Languagehat (talk) 14:56, 27 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Timeline of Barcelona[edit]

What is missing from the recently created city timeline article? Please add relevant content. Contributions welcome. Thank you. -- M2545 (talk) 16:04, 19 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Forbidden, but not illegalised?[edit]

Under Franco, the use of the Catalan language in public life was suppressed and forbidden, although its use was not formally illegalised as often claimed.

What is the difference between forbidden and (strange word) 'illegalised'? Valetude (talk) 10:41, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed "Illegalise" (or "illegalize") is an unusual word, but it is a word, according to Wiktionary and to Merriam-Webster, both of which give recent examples of its use. I wrote most of the article in its present form, but I did not write that particular passage. Per your question, I think it needed clarification, so I've changed it to "was suppressed and effectively forbidden, although its use was not formally criminalised as often claimed." Thanks. Carlstak (talk) 12:52, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]