Talk:History of the Jews in the Czech lands

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The "History of the Jews in the Czech Republic" is ... short. Because the CR was founded in 1991. I suppose you mean "History of the Jews in Bohemia", or why not simply "Bohemian Jews".--dab (𒁳) 11:56, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe because Bohemia consists of only half of Czech Republic area? --Silesianus (talk) 11:23, 7 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Move discussion in progress[edit]

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"Federation of Jewish Communities in the Czech Republic" listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Federation of Jewish Communities in the Czech Republic. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 June 11#Federation of Jewish Communities in the Czech Republic until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. b uidhe 09:14, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 25 June 2020[edit]

This discussion was listed at Wikipedia:Move review on 9 August 2020. The result of the move review was Overturned and moved to History of the Jews in the Czech lands..

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) -- Calidum 02:30, 6 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

History of the Jews in the Czech Republic → History of the Jews in Czechia – The current name implies that this article deals with 1993–present, when the Czech Republic was in existence. However, that is not the case; the article actually deals with the entire history of Jews in the region, before it was called "Czech Republic". b uidhe 19:49, 25 June 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. Steel1943 (talk) 18:34, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose for bad rationale. Moving this to Czechia doesn't actually address the concerns, because the region itself isn't Czechia either. (The country's page is at Czech Republic, and is under a move moratorium, so moving the country isn't an option.) O.N.R. ^(talk) 01:24, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Old Naval Rooftops, I would also support "History of the Jews in the Czech lands", if you prefer that. But the current title is unsatisfactorary. b uidhe 03:03, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support Buidhe on "History of the Jews in the Czech lands".(KIENGIR (talk) 20:20, 26 June 2020 (UTC))[reply]

Support "...in the Czech lands" as the best option. O.N.R. ^(talk) 21:11, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The country's page stands at the Czech Republic. Oppose also "Czech lands", which is too ambiguous. Czech lands referred historically to different regions and areas, including parts of Lower Silesia, Upper Lusatia etc., which are now parts of Poland and Germany respectively. - Darwinek (talk) 23:08, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Darwinek:,

please take into account that similar articles care of the respective countries history on not just on present-day borders, but on historical grounds, obviously fresh created borders or even new countries in the past century does not influence that. History of the Jews in Germany may effect territories what are today part of Poland, similary Polish history what is today part of Ukraine etc. I.e., the history of Jews in Hungary affects seven other present-day countries. E.g. Of course it does not exclude Poland article on this to discuss what was on that part of Silesia, as well would not exclude to discuss this article when it was part of Bohemia.(KIENGIR (talk) 03:35, 27 June 2020 (UTC))[reply]

Support. Contrary to the opposer #1, "Czechia" can obviously stand for Bohemia and Moravia at other points in their history in way that "Czech Republic" cannot. No objection to "Czech lands" or to "Bohemia and Moravia" for that matter. Srnec (talk) 20:20, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I think it's less confusing to just use the current name of the country. Rreagan007 (talk) 20:05, 5 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Never known as Czechia until recently and still most commonly known as the Czech Republic, so I fail to see how the proposal helps matters. -- Necrothesp (talk) 23:54, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
False, the term "Czechia" is attested from 1841 and "Czech lands" even earlier. (t · c) buidhe 00:24, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, if you must split hairs, never commonly known as Czechia in English-language sources, even today. No objection to Czech lands or Bohemia and Moravia. -- Necrothesp (talk) 00:29, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, use Czech lands instead – I agree that the present title is an anachronism, but so is the proposed title. In historical contexts, we use 'Czech lands' for this purpose. RGloucester — ☎ 02:19, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The first sentence of the History of the Jews in North Macedonia article reads "The history of the Jews in North Macedonia stretches back two thousand years." This for a country that's had that name for all of a year and a half. — AjaxSmack 02:30, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Different case. It's always been the northern part of the region that's always been called Macedonia, whatever its official name at one time or another. So the title and first line are not inaccurate. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:17, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Revert of recent redirect[edit]

@Calidum:, Buidhe did not perform that move that was opposed, but what was proposed insteadm as an alternative.(KIENGIR (talk) 17:09, 6 August 2020 (UTC))[reply]

No consensus is no consensus, especially when that was also discussed above and at least one person object to it. But, he is welcome to try a new move request to that title if he would like. -- Calidum 18:58, 6 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Calidum, In the discussion above only one person objected to that target, while several explicitly expressed support. It is typical to close WP:RM as a third option if that is what is supported by participants. (t · c) buidhe 20:19, 6 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Funny how you just happened to find Talk:Anglo-French War (1778–1783) hours later. -- Calidum 04:08, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Calidum, I watch WT:MILHIST, that's where I found it. Anyway, are you going to revise your closure or perhaps WP:Move review would be the next step? (t · c) buidhe 04:23, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

missing citations[edit]

very few citations in the modern day section (one for many czech citizens being atheists, but none as far as I can see for any of the other data, including hard facts which ought to be cited). possibly an issue of translated material not carrying over sources? 174.198.2.161 (talk) 10:35, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Missing account of expulsion of Jews[edit]

The article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Familiants_Law refers to Maria Theresa revoking her edict expelling the Jews in 1745. If this is correct, surely the expulsion of Jews should be mentioned and described in this article. David Thrale (talk) 21:19, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]