Talk:Horndon-on-the-Hill

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The Ordnance Survey spells the name without hyphens. Should we change the article name? Rjm at sleepers (talk) 11:34, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Probably not. The Ordnance Survey is not always a reliable guide to place names. Royal Mail uses hyphens in the official address. Local sources seem inconsistent, so in the absence of conclusive evidence it would be best to leave the article name as it has been for many years, rather than causing unnecessary disruption. --188.30.212.32 (talk) 19:24, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not Moved Mike Cline (talk) 02:56, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Horndon-on-the-HillHorndon on the Hill – Per the Ordnance Survey, also per Google Maps and City Population. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:39, 24 December 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. Colonestarrice (talk) 11:30, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:30, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
This is not uncontroversial. The issue was raised on the talk page years ago, but nobody responded. --188.30.212.32 (talk) 19:26, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: WikiProject East Anglia has been notified of this discussion. ASUKITE 21:36, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Mildly opposed in order to maintain the status quo ante. Reaney in Place Names of Essex uses the hyphenated version. Chapman & Andre map uses unhyphenated. White's directory (1848) uses hyphenated. Rjm at sleepers (talk) 22:17, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. To requote what I said above, because it seemed to get ignored earlier:

Probably not. The Ordnance Survey is not always a reliable guide to place names. Royal Mail uses hyphens in the official address. Local sources seem inconsistent, so in the absence of conclusive evidence it would be best to leave the article name as it has been for many years, rather than causing unnecessary disruption.

Neither spelling is right or wrong, and as with most of these "X-on-Y" place names in Britain, plenty of examples can be found using hyphens and equally many using spaces. I think the form with hyphens is generally regarded as more formal, hence its use in official postal addresses, but spaces are commonly seen in official usage too. The best thing Wikipedia can do is leave the page at the title that has been stable for many years. If we move it now, that would just be change for its own sake, and someone could equally well come back and ask for it to be moved again in a few years. I'm sure there are more useful things we could be doing with our time. --188.30.193.10 (talk) 14:08, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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