Talk:Hot Lake Hotel/Archive 1

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Hello, what can I do to improve this article? Would more research validate this article as being notable like the Brown Grand Theatre or Belcourt Castle? I mean, I don't even believe in ghosts, but this is probably the most notable site in Oregon. Should it be merged into the list of haunted places article?

Like Brown Grand???

Gee, thanks for your comment on the Brown Grand Theatre! I put a lot of work in that and found that some people would delete it while I was even still editing the page. Once the full page was prepared, people have tended to leave it alone.

I recommend getting a good page ready to go and posting that one page. Use links, references, and tests for notablilty. For instance, what will someone in England care about this place? What about someone in 100 years? What's special about it... not just to you, but to everyone?--Paul McDonald 01:23, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Well....

Hmm... I'm one of those people that would never suggest that an article be removed because it's unimportant... but I gotta say I don't see any point in keeping this particular article. I'm not pushing for deletion or anything, but here's my thoughts:

1) The article's title isn't accurate. Shouldn't it be "Hot Lake Hotel" or at the very least "Hot Lake" (capital "L")?

2) The "references" are not connected to the article... what information is, for example, gleaned from Judy Jewell's Oregon? I haven't read the linked articles-- references are to verify information, not provide it. Perhaps an external links section?

3) I found it because of its inclusion in the category of ghosts... only to discover that "oh, yeah, it's supposed to be haunted." No description of the alleged hauntings, no times where they were reported, no explanation of anything. "General Lee's haunted piano"??????? Was it haunted by General Lee, or haunted when he owned it? Were people hearing? Did people see it? Were there stories of a piano wandering around in the dark waving a Confederate Flag???????

4) It's not really an article. It's a paragraph. Really, it's five sentences. Five sentences that don't contain any real information. ( "Built in the late 1800s", for example. "closed for many years". Pretty vague. One expects a little more precision from a reference source, no? ) When was it a sanitorium? For how long? When did it burn down? Why did it burn down? Did the piano do it?

What I'm reading here is "I want there to be a mention of Hot Lake Hotel in Wikipedia, but don't really have enough information to write one."

You know, the Brown Grand Theatre is a really good comparison. Note the inclusion of dates. Names. A photo. The fact that it's in the US National Register of Historic Places. Who runs it. It's not listed under "ghosts" because there's ONE BLOODY SENTENCE on the subject. (Good work, Paul.) CatherS 08:36, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

I find it hard to believe that Wild Bill Hickok patronized the sanitorium ... when he died in 1876!!! 208.100.164.221 (talk) 19:01, 29 March 2014 (UTC) John Gottberg Anderson