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Coat of Arms

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I noticed a difference in the arms here on this page to the one shown on other pages (for example, List of Cypriot consorts). The one here with the lion is also shown on Laval, Mayenne for the town. I posted the other here based in part on a source I have found (tagged in the references). I would appreciate someone more knowledgeable to clarify when the change was made (if the house changed arms at some point in its line), or where the lion arms came from. For now, I'll leave both here on the page. 1bandsaw (talk) 01:05, 3 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In looking around a little further on here, I've found that the quartered arms are suspiciously close to the arms of the House of Montmorency as shown on that page. Given that the Lavals after 1211 were descended in the male line from a Montmorency, that would seem to make sense, though it conflicts with the reported agreement of that marriage which indicates that the heirs of that marriage would take the name and arms of Guy de Laval (which was also mentioned in the one book on the House of Laval that I found that also shows the quartered arms for the Lavals). However, to update any information based on this suspicious similarity would violate the original research and the wikipedia is not a source policies. So I'm still hoping that someone here has access to additional source materials which could shed further light on the situation. 1bandsaw (talk) 20:31, 2 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]