Talk:Huntley (plantation)

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Removing plantation from the name[edit]

Huntley was never actually a plantation. The house and immediate outbuildings that now form Historic Huntley were TF Mason's summer residence which overlooked his Hunting Creek Farm property. While this article doesn't have to be that specific, it should reflect the actual historic nature of the site. Tobacco nor any other cash crop was ever grown on the farm (at least under Mason's ownership), instead he grew grains - wheat, barely, and rye. The farm was also not really that large and Mason didn't export his crops for sale in distant markets. While the definition of plantation isn't completely formalized, the three basic parts of what makes a plantation a plantation are not met at Huntley. Is there any way to remove the word plantation from the entry title? There's already a lot of misinformation out there about this historic site and it would be really fantastic to make this entry as accurate as possible. Thanks! Bandd80 (talk) 19:32, 18 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Those grains were not grown with wage laborers. -- Caponer (talk) 20:53, 18 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Very true, but enslaved labor and indentured servitude have little to do with whether or not a farm is a plantation. Plenty of family farms throughout the United States had slaves working on them. Slaves also worked in homes, factories, and businesses. Generally what makes a plantation a plantation is its size and that it grows a single crop for sale in a distant market. While most plantations do use some sort of exploitative labor, that is not its defining feature. Bandd80 (talk) 16:43, 19 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sorry, but I disagree with this. Though it was not a huge plantation like Gunston Hall, Stratford Hall, Mount Vernon, it was probably almost 100 acres at the peak of Mason's profit-making from the growing of grain. He undoubtedly had some sort of mill, distillery and maybe even a brewery, something like George Washington's Distillery and Gristmill. Not any old grain farm would have this. As "Caponer" pointed out, it was run on slave labour. Also, outbuildings, which there were about 6 during Mason's ownership, included a kitchen, smokehouse (or "springhouse"), clerk quarters, two slavehouses, and a storehouse. Again, not any farm had this. Huntley Hall was undoubtedly a plantation, and based on records, a very successful one. (And By The Way... Grain could bea very profitable cash crop... just look at George Washington!) --Derpface7 16:48, 10 March 2016

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