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Todo

Some links:

For Sonora

For Sinaloa
For Nayrait
For Jalisco - recommend that you search for Willa or Willa Jalisco
- Already some impact. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 00:41, 25 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
$530 million in damage.
RW. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 22:04, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Windspeed at landfall

Willa hit Sinaloa as a 120 mph storm, but shortly before striking the mainland of Mexico, Willa passed over Las Islas Marias from the Revillagigedo Islands as a 125 mph storm, so shouldn't Willa technically be at a tie with Tico, Olivia, Odile, and Lane in windspeed in the table? Rye998 (talk) 23:57, 27 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

VERY VERY late response but no, Since it didn’t make landfall in mainland Mexico. TheEasternEditer (talk) 23:00, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GAN Prep

@Hurricanehink: I just wanted to notify you that I will be using this for the GAN prep (mainly just the massive expansion of the preps, impact, and aftermath). I know you will be working on Floyd, but I am going to get sources gathered. Noah^Talk 16:56, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Noah! I saw that NCDC has a bit more for Texas. The harder part is gonna be getting good sources from Mexico, due to the language barrier, but that shouldn't be too tough. I also found some more sources from ReliefWeb. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:08, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Hurricanehink: Did you see how much I churned up in a single search (focused on Sinaloa)? I will conduct more searches for other states and preps once I get home from work tonight. I did remove duplicate links earlier. Noah^Talk 18:10, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Also, @Oof-off: is helping to locate some sources for the US in case there is more than just Texas. Noah^Talk 18:13, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yea, that's a good find so far. And as for US, there'll probably be a bit for Louisiana too. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:26, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Did you go through my todo links from above? Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 22:23, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I had some specific search terms I intended to use for finding Spanish sources. @Hurricanehink: For the most part, I have found info on the color-coded weather alerts, but it may need some additional work. I'm thinking we could churn out quite a large article on this storm... It appears the gov't has neglected the victims as well. Could you please add any relevant storm event reports under a new section header when you get a chance? Noah^Talk 01:57, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

When I get around to Willa, I'll just start adding the info, as opposed to adding links. I think it's easier that way, given how big of the article is gonna be, to just start compiling it. The article will be in a predictable structure: preps (evacuations, closures, warnings), impact (general Mexico section, sub-sections for Sinaloa and Nayarit, US), and aftermath (aid, rebuilding). ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 14:33, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I will add information in as I get time. I will worry more about organization later. Noah^Talk 19:13, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like a good plan. I sometimes end up working on several articles at a time. You put in the work one edit at a time, and eventually, as you know, your edits could result in a featured article. Speaking of, I better go write on the talk page of another 2018 storm, so you don't have to ask for a review again :P ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:21, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Hurricanehink: Hey, was just wondering about the information you found for the US. I am going to start adding in information again (to the GAN prep page) as my classes settle down in the next couple of weeks. Noah^Talk 04:17, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I added a bit from NCDC. There's nothing from Louisiana, and the Texas bit is pretty limited. Nothing mentioned Willa specifically, but given that the TCR talked about heavy rainfall on 10/24, and the NCDC had events on 10/24 in Galveston, I felt it was fine to add those flooding details. I also added a bit that I found, linking Willa's remnants to a developing nor'easter. I know it's not much, but I don't have a lot of time to edit these days. :/ Damn RL ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:53, 11 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Hurricanehink: I will attempt to add more to the GAN prep page some weekend in the future. Once I burn through everything, I will have to have someoneelse integrate the content and merge the history. Noah^Talk 12:16, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Hurricane Willa/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: JavaHurricane (talk · contribs) 11:44, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Will do. -- Java Hurricane 11:44, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

I have disambiguated a few links. I don't think any others exist, but please check if any remain.
"Though the system subsequently crossed over Central America into the East Pacific, without significant organization." - Should be "However, ...".

Changed. Noah^Talk 14:02, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Later in the day, the system became a tropical storm as it began to rapidly intensify. Willa became a Category 4 major hurricane on October 21, before strengthening further to Category 5 intensity on the next day." We could do with better sentence construction.

Better? Noah^Talk 14:02, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

MH is top class, no problems there.
"Mexican Secretariat of the Navy" - is the person's name available?

Added the guy's name.. would have been the one under the old president. Noah^Talk 14:02, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"In Mazatlán, rockslides and flooding of the Camarón lagoon occurred." Bad sentence construction, could be improved.

Better? Noah^Talk 14:03, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Acaponeta was similarly severely impacted as record-breaking flooding occurred along the Acaponeta River, [...]" - any sources about "record-reaking"?

"They calculate a flow of 17 thousand cubic meters, an unprecedented figure in the Nayarite records." this is what the source says for that. Noah^Talk 14:02, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"There, approximately 1,820 people were provided with 1,400 food rations." Where is "there"?

Clarified that that was Sinaloa. Noah^Talk 14:02, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Overall, a good read! I have no hesitation in passing this, but till the above issues are fixed, I'll keep this On hold. Cheers! -- Java Hurricane 13:24, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

All problems are now fixed. Passed for GA. On a side note, I think we could start preparing for a possible FAC from now on. The MH is top-notch, and the preparations and aftermath are also very nicely written. A little bit of copyediting and we could get Willa to FA-class. -- Java Hurricane 14:11, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Why wasn't Willa retired?

I was reading the reasons why the currently retired Pacific Hurricanes were retired. Seeing that Willa did a few hundred thousand dollars away from 1 billion in damage, I ask out of curiosity, why didn't the name get retired along with the other Category 5 hurricanes of the season (in my opinion, they all had high probabilities for retirement because of their impact)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.214.58.75 (talk) 16:41, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@71.214.58.75: Honestly, that question can only be answered by the Mexican Government and the hurricane committee since they are the ones that would have requested/voted on it. It honestly should have been given the severity of the impact. Noah^Talk 16:42, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

source issues

A just found couple of sources looks ... not right:

Stewart, Stacy (October 21, 2018). Hurricane Willa Discussion Number 5 (Report). National Hurricane Center. Archived from the original on October 21, 2018. Retrieved February 27, 2019.</ref>
Cangialosi, John (October 22, 2018). Hurricane Willa Discussion Number 8 (Report). National Hurricane Center. Archived from the original on October 21, 2018. Retrieved February 27, 2019.</ref>

Same urls with different title & author, I guess seond one should be "...008.shtml?", also date should be 21st?

Also

Stewart, Stacy (October 22, 2018). Hurricane Willa Discussion Number 9 (Report). National Hurricane Center. Retrieved April 13, 2019.
Cangialosi, John (October 22, 2018). Hurricane Willa Discussion Number 9 (Report). National Hurricane Center. Retrieved February 27, 2019.

Same urls, same title & date but different author, cite for different sentence, I guess the second one is wrong, but I have also check ...010/011/012/013/014/015/016.shtml, none of them have the right author.--Jarodalien (talk) 16:32, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

10, 11 and 16 were right
12, 13, and 15 were not even used
Fixed 14
Fixed the above issue with the link...

@Jarodalien:I am really unsure how all those errors made it through the FAC. Noah^Talk 17:03, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

User:Hurricane Noah: "...The cost to repair public infrasturcture in Nayarit was evaluated at approximately MX$2.2 billion (US$92,000)"

This can't be right, 92 million right?--Jarodalien (talk) 06:33, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Noah^Talk 10:13, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

TFA

User:Hurricane Noah, KN2731, Hurricanehink, and anyone watching: does anyone have an objection to running this at TFA for the 5th anniversary in October? - Dank (push to talk) 03:32, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]