Talk:Hypermiling

This article was previously nominated for deletion. The result of the discussion was keep.

Wayne Gerdes Spam

It is clear, especially from this talk page, that Wayne Gerdes is editing this article to flatter himself, from various references to undocumented, so-called world records to editing out links and disagreeing statements from others, even when supported by primary source material. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.188.27.61 (talk) 07:09, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, how much more encyclopedic is the version I've just done? Greglocock (talk) 10:11, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Could you point to specific edits that you have in mind, to save those of us who haven't been following it closely the trouble of going through the whole history? As Greg showed, we can edit out excessive attention to Gerdes, but if there is other material he's removed that shouldn't have been removed it would be nice to restore it.

Wayne Gerdes actually redirects to this page. Perhaps we should have a real Wayne Gerdes article, where more about him would be appropriate.

-Ccrrccrr (talk) 13:11, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I'm not really very wikipedia savvy, but I was thinking particularly of the competition section, which talks about records for the Honda Insight twice. However, the "records" from the fuel economy competition aren't "official" in the sense that there was any outside monitoring, etc. It's just being called a "record" in the sense that "I did this and I don't know anyone else who has done better." The event in question was also a closed event, not advertised or open to people not invited by Gerdes or his partner. I believe the participants were exclusively from Gerdes' website, which in and of itself isn't terrible, but I think the motive of the post has to do more with "hey look at us" than actual importance or notability of the event. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.188.16.190 (talk) 02:28, 19 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Copyvio warning

Hi All:

I had to fix some of recent edits as there were links to the Hypermiling.uk site who has copied my work on Hypmiling, removed many of the Dangerous tags all over the article, removed some myths about higher speeds allowing higher FE and high speed launches adding FE non-sense.

If you are going to edit the article, please know what you are talking about let alone don't steal someone elses work inlcuding links to the original source documents.

If someone would like to tackle the formatting of whatever is needed, by all means, have at it :)

Thank you

Wayne Gerdes - Owner/Admin of CleanMPG.com

FYI

I hope it was all seen by the creator of this page, but there was a crufty old WP:OR-ridden page (worse than this one) at [1] once that I merged into the more apt fuel economy in automobiles Might have another source or two you can put to use. MrZaius^talk 01:42, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Recent blanket reversion

"As we take off—or, more accurately, as the vehicle rolls forward really slowly—I notice that all four windows are closed and the AC is off. I'm sitting in one of the most technologically advanced cars in the world, and it feels like I'm trapped in a fanless tollbooth in Biloxi, Mississippi, in August." is a direct quote from http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2007/01/guy-can-get-59-mpg-plain-old-accord-beat-punk

as is "Wayne turns off the engine. " as is ""Buckle up tight, because this is the death turn," says Wayne. Death turn? "

" most of the traffic is zipping past at 75 or so, but Wayne hovers around 50 mph."

In other words some if not most of the recent edits by 79..... were supported directly by references in the text.

So I undid the blanket reversion, and will continue to do so. If the edits are not supported by refs fair enough. Greglocock (talk) 10:48, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Whoops. I meant to add an edit summary when I removed that dead link. Apparently either this page or Firefox overzealously interprets 'Enter' keystrokes, even when focus isn't on the submit button. Not my fault at all.

I was supposed to 174.21.30.173 (talk) 10:16, 4 November 2009 (UTC), right? Here it is then. 174.21.30.173 (talk) 10:16, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rather dramatic lack of NPOV

What's with the most current versions of this article? There is nothing inherently dangerous or bad about driving a car to attain high mileage. But to read this article you'd think human sacrifice is involved. Certainly the older versions needed some reworking. But to lay person this article basically says "hypermiling is bad and you shouldn't do it" This article stinks of misinformation from top to bottom. Why not have a normal explanation of the topic with a "Critisism of hypermiling techniques section"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Evil genius (talk • contribs) 05:44, 31 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

copyright

what I can see: http://www.chiangmai-mail.com/w011/auto.shtml is a copy of: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hypermiling&oldid=515591146

In the old wikipedia article, you can see, how it was created step by step. Anyway, I will change the text a little. Wega14 (talk) 14:45, 18 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

How is this different from energy-efficient driving?

Compare the beginnings of the hypermiling and energy-efficient driving articles:

Hypermiling is driving a vehicle with techniques that minimize fuel consumption. Those who use these techniques are called "hypermilers".

Energy-efficient driving techniques are used by drivers who wish to reduce their fuel consumption. Terms for driving techniques to maximize fuel efficiency include hypermiling.

Indeed, the energy-efficient driving article consists largely of hypermiling techniques.

Do we really need separate articles for these identical or at least nearly identical topics? Phleg1 (talk) 13:00, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

there is a big difference between energy-efficient driving and hypermiling. Hypermiling is a kind of sport, a extreme way of energy-efficient driving. Any car today has a gear cold eco-gear, to drive the car in eco-modus. Energy-efficient driving is for everyone. But for hypermiling, people fill the tank completely and then several drivers take turns driving for sometimes more than 30 hours until the tank is completely empty. Then it is checked how many kilometres one has reached. In the car, back seats are mounted out to save weight and the like. Often only a speed of about 40 km/h is driven. All this is documented on video and posted on the Internet. This sport has reached a new popularity since electric cars were introduced. There are many videos on the Internet documenting how electric cars with one battery charge can reach distances of 1000 km and more. And by the way, many car manufacturers use such extreme methods to measure fuel consumption or exhaust gas values. The word hypermiling is very popular today. So it should be explained. Here are videos: [2] [3] [4] Wega14 (talk) 16:25, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

OK, so hypermiling is an extreme form of energy-efficient driving with hobbyist/sporting aspects. Perhaps that should be made more clear in the article. Though I still think that "hypermiling" and "energy efficient driving" are so conceptually overlapping that they could easily be accommodated in the same article, I will withdraw the merge tags. Thanks for your response. Phleg1 (talk) 15:16, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well then

After reading this article on hypermiling, I still have zero idea what it is or how to do it or recognize it if I see it. It talks all around it but explains nothing of the techniques, so the reader can't possibly understand what the topic is all about. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 17:39, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]