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Speedy deletion of File:Beyonce iamtour.jpg

I accidently nominated this image for speedy deletion when i was trying to delete a duplicate of this image. The image (Beyonce iamtour.jpg) is useful to this article and should'nt be deleted. IkeMuotoh (talk) 13:30, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

The rest of the dates?

Does anybody know when the other dates will be made public? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.245.182.188 (talk) 10:57, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

I Believe April 2009 was the month I heard they were gettin released. Wneedham02 (talk) 23:10, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

WHY JUST 4 CONCERTS IN KANADA AND 1 IN USA??? I CANT UNDERSTAND THIS :`( —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.178.55.122 (talk) 16:36, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

More Canadian shows will most probably be announced with the next batch of North American dates in April.Wneedham02 (talk) 22:25, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Setlists

I feel we should keep the setlist as it is for the time being as it is being altered every night during the tester shows. We should keep up the setlist that was used on the opening night and state any differences in the notes section and make any alterations when the tour kicks off properly in Croatia. Wneedham02 (talk) 19:58, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

you guys need to write that the europe dates are sold out, they are. some internet sites such as mediatakeout are saying shes having ticket trouble which any true fan knows is a bare face lie —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.175.228 (talk) 13:35, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

It is still untrue which of the European dates are sold out, The whole of the UK dates are sold out and the Paris, Rotterdam, Budapest and Croatian shows are but its not clear about the others Wneedham02 (talk) 12:35, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Sweet Dreams

Where is 'Sweet Dreams'? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.138.168.230 (talk) 17:36, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

"Sweet Dreams" has so far only been performed once at the first show as the opening song but since taken out of the setlist alonf with "Dangerously In Love" however the setlist is open to change within the next few days when the tour kicks off properly!Wneedham02 (talk) 19:26, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Tour Selling Poorly

I think we should ad that Beyonce's tour is selling very poorly and that no dates are sold out yet...that on the opening night the stadium was only filled for 50% and that she has to give away 13.000 free tickets to her concerts in London...

http://jam.canoe.ca/Music/Artists/B/Beyonce/ConcertReviews/2009/03/27/8904821-sun.html

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.25.117.15 (talk) 10:12, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

This is not true actual fact the whole of the UK leg has sold out once within a week of them going on sale hence why there was only 5 shows to start with and now theres 14, the first show in Croatia was sold out and was the first show to completly sell out in under a week after sale. The Canadian shows didnt sell out as they only went on sale 3 weeks before the show took place. The shows sold out are:
  • Whole of UK & Ireland
  • Paris
  • Both Rotterdam
  • first New York show
  • Sydney
  • Melbourne

The show in London that she's giving 13,000 tickets away for is a new show and you can only win tickets, you cant but so the fact that she's giving away because she can't sell them is untrue! I suggest you get your facts from reliable sources not MediaTakeOutWneedham02 (talk) 19:11, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Obviously you need to check your sources cause I was right..Vienna was only 50% full...

http://perezhilton.com/2009-04-29-wtf-beyonce

--84.25.117.15 (talk) 11:22, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Perez Hilton is the definition of not a WP:RS. Wasted Time R (talk) 11:35, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Yall can beat around the bush as long as you like but at the end of May Billboard will release the Box Office scores and we will see how Beyonce is playing in venues that are only half full...and Ill be here to laugh.--84.25.117.15 (talk) 17:20, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

LOL hater much? Her concerts are sold out, using Perez Hilton as your back up won't get you anywhere. Quit spreading lies and go do something more useful. 80.6.177.56 (talk) 13:31, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

The concerts were definately sold out in the UK, I would know, it was a nightmare getting tickets for her Manchester gig just 2 days after they went on general sale, we got upper tier tickets... The Europe gigs did sell out --Patyo1994 (talk) 22:06, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

SET LIST

who changed it? that setlist is wrong —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.175.228 (talk) 10:29, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Fixed, can people stop adding their own setlists. Wneedham02 (talk) 14:14, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

duration

I can;t believe this setlist is so long. could someone tell me how long does the show last? I'm thinking at least 2 hours. --12345abcxyz20082009 (talk) 17:56, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

The tour lasts usually around 2hrs 10 Mins but has dragged on till 2hrs and 30mins in some venues. Wneedham02 (talk) 18:16, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Notes section

Im going to move the notes section to the bottom of the page as it is good information but not as important as information below it, I feel. Also Im going to move the personnel section up too unless anyone states a reason why. Wneedham02 (talk) 18:18, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok ive recently added a few bits of information as it was incorrect. The Irish shows did NOT go on sale as planned on 5th june, this was posponed by aiken promotions, to further clarify the dates for the tour..went on sale 3td July 2009.. www.aikenpromotions.com is a source.

also show notes about the drumming solos has been added, this is also true and should not be removed. as is information about Beyoncé's last irish concert. and,.stuff about Bono in the diva zone, was clearly visible from the front row, and many band members commented on this on their twitter pages.

whoever keeps deleting this information should wise up. iv went to the show five times, and am going again 4 more times this year; i know what i'm talking about before i post anything.

If you are going to write about one of the vocalists not being ther, i suggest you add that Montina was not there at LA. You're gonna have to make this information complete or don't bother at all. Plus..the 'Hello' interlude with drum solos started in Dublin 4th June 2009...it wasnt performed at any of the other shows...before this. I have video evidence if you need it.

  • "Background vocalist Montina Cooper did not make an appearance in Dallas, and during the show in Los Angeles she hurt her ankle and left the stage." - it's already there. next time please read the article before writing things like that. Robyka54 (talk) 01:45, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Btw i see Rob. or something silimar around this page..here's hoping its not the Robirob i know of and respect on bwboard.

It should be removed off the page. It is little more than random trivia and knowing that 1 show was delayed for a short while because of spilled water as a bullet list is hardly relevant to understanding the tour as a whole. The vast majority of it seems unsourced, and the celebrity guest list is completely irrelevant to the article. Not to mention youtube videos and random facebook pages, which don't seem to be working now, are all self-published sources, and rarely, if ever, are usable as citation. Which seems to be the basis for the few citations that do exist in this section.--Crossmr (talk) 02:43, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

2nd UK leg!

Can people stop adding the 2nd UK leg... Yes it got accidentally announced by some ticket sites but until its announced officially we shuold keep them off as they're constantly changing!! Wneedham02 (talk) 22:25, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Add Show Your Helping Hand

I Think We Should Add Somewhere In This Page That Beyoncé Partnered Up With Show Your Helping Hand & She'll Be Having A Food Bank At All Of Her U.S. Tour Stops. :)

http://showyourhelpinghand.com/68.37.147.191 (talk) 03:18, 22 June 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bday0495 (talk • contribs) 16:54, 21 June 2009 (UTC)


George Michael Connection

I see George Michael appeared at a UK show. Is there any deeper connection between Michael's work and this tour, since the motorbike-style costume Beyonce wears in the poster is almost identical to the one Emma Wiklund wore in the video for Michael's Too Funky (also designed by Thierry Mugler) - did Beyonce choose this? Obviously this is just something that occurred to me so Original Research at the moment, but if anyone's seen any information about it please share! Pitt the elder (talk) 08:30, 1 July 2009 (UTC)


Essence Festival

Hi guys, the Essence Festival was not Bee's concert, other artist were performing as well for the whole 3 day weekend and all 3 days sold out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.163.197.172 (talk) 19:36, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, and that is why theres a smaller reference aside it stating that. Wneedham02 (talk) 22:57, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

THERE ARE 6 IN ASIA ?????????????????

Hi, Hey,last time i saw that there are six in asia that beyonce will perform. there are 5 in japan and 1 in the philippines. but after a few days you post it. the date for the philippines is gone !?? so i am little bit uncontented about the date in asia ! is beyonce will come to october 26 in Manila,Philippines?? why did you erase The philippines in the schedule??? hope you can give me some answers !! thanks God bless !!! 

jude  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.94.225.91 (talk) 11:25, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
    • The date in the Philippines was included in some sources along with the Japan dates but those sources turned out to be unreliable, however when the sources for the Japan and China dates were found nothing of the Philippines show was mentioned, I would say it could be 50/50 on wether its true or not. If a source is found for it, it will be added back up. Wneedham02 (talk) 16:00, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

BOX OFFICE SOURCES???

Is anybody gonna provide some sources for the box office score, or anybody can add just anything they want???? —Preceding unsigned comment added by MarkBanks92 (talk • contribs) 22:42, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Date of recorded

no source from twitter that the london show will be film, however this is believable but that she only plans to film one date on the 14th isn't, and wasn't part of the original article addition. i'd think that she'd plan recorded several dates (eg all 3 london shows) encase something went wrong on the 14th, like she did for "the beyoncé experience" which is pieced together from several show the 4th september being the main one —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smelf (talk • contribs) 22:57, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Russia show?

Is this true and if so can you please add a source??

Ukraine show

THE ukraine concert was not a Beyonce concert, it was the OPENING of the arena and the EVENT was planned for months. Bey was just the the GUEST who performed a few songs. Other acitives took place.

http://donbass-arena.com/en/news/?id=10515 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.70.106.93 (talk) 23:29, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes that is true that other events took place before her performance, but she performed the full concert setlist and tickets to the event only sold out after her appearance was confirmed therefore it is classed as one of her own concerts. Wneedham02 (talk) 22:55, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

The Event was already sold out months before it was confirmed in JULY that she will be performing. She also performed her whole setlist at Essence but was not her concert. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.96.39.96 (talk) 20:35, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

I would also like to add this Link http://donbass-arena.com/en/news/?id=10476

Also the same Japan Concert, many artists like GAGA were also performing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Septkendall11 (talk • contribs) 20:55, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

BEYONCE IN SEPTEMBER 25 IN THE PHILIPPINES??

IS THAT TRUE ?? BEYONCE WILL COME IN SEPTEMBER 25,2009?? GIVE ME SOME MORE INFO THANKS !! -JUDE —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.94.225.103 (talk) 11:13, 5 September 2009 (UTC)



For Attendance, The Osaka show was NOT her concert and Lady Gaga also performed. The Ukraine show was also NOT her concert, both like Essence Festival other things took place. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.96.39.96 (talk) 19:24, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Poland & Turkey shows

Is there a source for those two shows as they are not mentioned on the official tour page and I can't find any sources online! Thanks. Wneedham02 (talk) 18:46, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Billboard never confirmed OR estimnated 103 million

Billboard never reported or estimated the South America leg of the tour. Someone is clearly inflating this page and it's not right. Pollstar confirmed that the tour finished with 86 million with 5 dates remaining (6 of the 104 shows do NOT count). A Brazilian Magazine already reported one of the boxscores and it was in US Dollars..meaning, the total for all those shows will be lower. Where are the sources to these so called South America dates?? This page seriously needs to be looked at. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trishfan33 (talk • contribs) 01:38, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

I AM Tour Ranks No.1 Worldwide?

There is an article that say that Beyonce's tour is the #1 tour WW (http://www.singersroom.com/news/4219/Beyonce-I-AM-Tour-Ranks-No1-Worldwide ) and some people are taking this like this tour is #1 WW in general. I think that is not what the Billboard report say. I found the report from Billboard: http://www.billboard.com/#/news/concert-charts-fierce-showing-by-beyonce-1003997011.story There they say that I am Tour was #1 that week in the Billboard Box Office, it doesn´t means tha the tour is the #1 Tour WW. I think we need to discuss about this. Sorry for my english. --Albes29 (talk) 23:41, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Albes29 on this one. Billboard is a much more realiable source for the statement. Any thoughts? - RUL3R*trolling*vandalism 18:01, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
I also agree with Albes29. I'm not sure why it was reverted the first few times; maybe the edit summary will help this time. --Overkill82 (talk) 18:31, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
The point is the source http://www.singersroom.com/news/4219/Beyonce-I-AM-Tour-Ranks-No1-Worldwide used the Billboard report but they wrote something different. It is the user Yashar1 (talk the one that keep reverting. I really don´t what else to do.--Albes29 (talk) 14:04, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Yeah the award for #1 Top Grossing tour was for that week it was published. Wneedham02 (talk) 15:57, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Israel shows

Thanks to whoever made a complete mess of the dates table earlier :|

...I dont think we should add the Israel shows till there announced officially or a better source is found as the one that has been featured still only says "There in talks" or something along the lines of that, it doesnt actually say they will take place etc. Also the show in Rio De Janeiro on New Years Eve turned out to be fake I heard so we'll leave it off too. Wneedham02 (talk)

South American dates?

Where are the reliable sources? This should be removed until official sources confirm it. Thanks--Jlrm1 (talk) 15:53, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Protection over attendees content dispute

I've protected the article over the dispute about attendees. Personally, I don't see what's gained by what looks like WP:TRIVIA, and per WP:BLP I will remove all unsourced living people listed. I'd like other opinions. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 02:57, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

um i think that all the attendences are true..becasue even on beyonces wesite and beyonce fan website beyonceworld.net or beyoncenow.net they report when people attend the concert and if you watch some of the videos on youtube you can see beyonce shouting them out.and people who go to the concert write reviews saying they say this person there..so --yashar1 (talk) 011:09, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Again, primary sources are discouraged. Fan sites are not reliable sources. Any way, I am not edit warring over this anyway. I say we should find a third-party reliable source. - RUL3R*trolling*vandalism 03:50, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
No one is saying they aren't true, the fact of the matter is that it isn't important. Other tour pages have had this removed because of that, this should not be an exception. ---Shadow (talk) 03:58, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Our policy is reliable sources (as defined there). Fan websites won't qualify except in very, very limited circumstances. Secondarily, our focus is secondary sources, not primary sources. Instead of individual claims as to who attended (or YouTube videos, which mean we have to trust that the videos are in fact correct), we should be able to find sources that describe the tours generally. If there's a mention of individual attendees (and even then, it's worth discussing), then we can consider it. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 04:12, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
ShadowRanger has a point. There is really no need to point out how many people attended a concert. - RUL3R*trolling*vandalism 04:15, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
How many? possibly..if it was record setting or something of that nature, but the individuals..no..not unless there was notability to their attendance. For example if a celebrity was at a concert and had an accident and it made news itself, then it would be worth noting on the concert/tour page as a significant event. Otherwise that kind of information doesn't serve much purpose.--Crossmr (talk) 14:55, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
I'll repeat my opinion down here. Its trivia plain and simple. These kinds of random facts about spilled water and random celebrities attending concerts doesn't do anything to further the readers understanding of the tour. Its great info for the official page of the concert or a fansite but doesn't really belong in an encyclopedia.--Crossmr (talk) 04:37, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
OK. We should remove the unnecessary informations.Robyka54 (talk) 12:12, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
It's not really notable who shows up. It's routine for entertainment industry people to go to each other's performances. It's an old theatrical tradition. --John Nagle (talk) 18:54, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
I see a rather obvious consensus forming here..--Crossmr (talk) 00:44, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
Me too. Lets call snow on this one, delete the info, and never talk about it again. - RUL3R*trolling*vandalism 04:31, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
I'd like to thank people for agreeing with me. I just don't see why Beyonce's tour should be the exception. ---Shadow (talk) 05:22, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

There seems to be a consensus here that the additional notes, attendance, and alterations should be removed as trivia. If an admin could apply those changes, that'd be great.--Crossmr (talk) 04:09, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

I thought just the attendances was discussed? ---Shadow (talk) 05:29, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
It was, didn't we all just agree that all three of those sections are unnecessary?--Crossmr (talk) 12:11, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Protection removed

No point to continuing protection if the edit warring has stopped. Go at it. If it starts up again, though, I can come back. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:50, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

I believe we should not link to Youtube videos, much less as references. Youtube videos are not reliable sources. And in this article they are being used to promote fanboyism, because they are only used to present images from the concerts (which may also carry copyvio issues.) I am trying to reach consensus as I had already removed all the links, Yashar1 (which apparently is an SPA for Beyoncé (User contributions), undid the revision. Thanks. > RUL3R>trolling>vandalism 22:03, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Unless we're putting the video in the article, it isn't a copyvio issue. Youtube is however, not a reliable source except in the rare circumstance where its being used as a primary source on an official verified channel of a subject. E.g. Disney's Official channel or something of that nature.--Crossmr (talk) 12:47, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Trivia

I had tagged this before. I misread the protection section. I thought we were discussing all three of those sections. They're all trivia, and add little if anything to the understanding of the tour. In one concert she performed a song on the ground instead of the stairs...really? Is this something that is going to lead to any greater understanding of the subject at all? Most of it is completely unsourced as well.--Crossmr (talk) 12:52, 19 October 2009 (UTC)


Billboard Estimates

Billboard NEVER estimated that the tour finish with 98M, that was a fake number thrown together by a fan at ukmix.org. The South America leg was in US$ Dollars which has been reported many times. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.164.105.30 (talk) 16:35, 2 July 2010 (UTC)


Merging Box office score data with Tour dates table

Wouldn't it be better if the Box office data was merged with the table in Tour dates ? Just adding two more columns, Tickets Sold / Available and Gross Revenue, would make the direct comparison of the box office easier and removes the repetition of the cities and venues already listed in the previous table.--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 07:38, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

With us not having boxscores for all the dates I dont think it would look much better Wneedham02 (talk) 00:23, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Yes but it's tedious to keep scrolling between the two to check the air date and the box office data. The table can be wider without shrinking...--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 07:41, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

"I Am... Yours" Description

The "I Am... Yours" show description is really off from the actual DVD. I changed the set list but haven't gotten to the actual summary. Who did this? Did you make up a set list? —Preceding unsigned comment added by D4c3nt3n0 (talk • contribs) 02:55, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

I did it based on a setlist from someone on BeyonceWorld who went to the concert. Remember that because her cover of "The Beautiful Ones" by Prince (which was excluded from the DVD due to a copyright claim) was still performed at the concerts and should be in the setlist. Wneedham02 (talk) 16:00, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Is that why it looks and sounds like there is editing between the tap sequence and "I Wanna Be Where You Are?" I thought it was just an actual intermission, like with The Beyoncé Experience DVD after the DC medley (well, I think that's also an intermission)... D4c3nt3n0 (talk) 21:36, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Information regarding the tour dates!

Theres been alot of edits to the tour dates recently mainly for the South/Latin American leg of the tour.

  1. Id just like to make it clear that the only shows which have been officially announced and will 100% take place are listed at this source: [1] This source says only 4 shows will take place in Brazil in Florianopolis, Rio de Janeiro, Sao Paulo and Salvador. So please can people stop adding in more dates at other locations. Furthermore a show has not been confirmed in Puerto Rico, Venezuela or Colombia. Promoters have spoke that they want her to perform in the countries however no show has been officially organised. Until a source saying a show will take place there is found please dont add them in again.
  2. Also, someone keeps stating that Belfast is in Ireland. Belfast is in Norther Ireland which is a part of the United Kingdom. Please can we keep the country as 'UK' as it was called the UK tour and it is easier to read. Thanks Wneedham02 (talk) 14:46, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Tickets for the show in Lima, Peru has been announced and are already in sale.[2]. So put it back. There's also confirmation for Chile, Argentina and El Salvador.--Jlrm1 (talk) 19:38, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Yes it has been announced and I originally had it on the table plus it was on the link I posted, but the Brazilian Beyonce fans keep changing all the dates and its becoming annoying. Wneedham02 (talk) 19:44, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

I Am Tour...DVD Release

I've notice that under "Broadcasting and Recordings" It changes often do you guy's know for sure if there will be a second DVD from the London shows? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oceansidevalley05 (talk • contribs) 20:39, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

There is no official confirmation. People claim it's from Twitter, but no source is ever posted. --Shadow (talk) 05:42, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
Although Im not an official source it was true I was there for two shows, one of which I was sa econ row right behind Kim Burse and Frank Gatson there were camera everywhere plus special guests. It was 100% filmed over the three nights in London in November 2009. 92.25.167.189 (talk) 23:45, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

QUESTION? Again, for a While they had a DVD Release for mid 2010, Did it Change again? Are we going to see an I Am Tour DVD??

Boxscores?

Who has changed the boxscores, I get people want to make Beyonces tour look as good as possible but it is true she didnt sell out all her second leg UK shows from the boxscores posted on Billboard. Wneedham02 (talk) 23:47, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Sao Paulo Record?

No source was reported, someone needs to look at that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trishfan33 (talk • contribs) 01:56, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

I Am... Yours Setlist

Ok, so the official tour DVD and tour DVD promos say "108 shows, 78 cities....." No, if you count the numbers, 108 shows includes the four I Am... Yours shows. So should we add the set list to this page since there are considered part of this tour? --Shadow (talk) 03:10, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

This may help in future

Jivesh • Talk2Me 05:47, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Jivesh1205 (Talk) 12:06, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Reviews

My love is love (talk) 19:19, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

THR

http://www.cowichannewsleader.com/entertainment/television/50830642.html 46.217.62.148 (talk) 14:41, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

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