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Nominator: SupremeLordBagel (talk · contribs) 21:13, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: The Sharpest Lives (talk · contribs) 03:19, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]


  • Sorry I've taken so long to keep you updated. I have been busy. I'll try to review this ASAP. I must say, it is well-written. The tone is neutral, the sections are adequate length and keep on-topic. It's overall an interesting read! I don't think I knew anything about FtP except for "Pumped Up Kicks", so it's cool to hear about their writing process and inspiration. Anyways, time to do that source spot-check I said I'd do. The Sharpest Lives (the deadliest to lead) 23:19, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Improvements[edit]

  • Sourcing: sources from the band are ok, per WP:SELFSOURCE, (see also WP:PRIMARY), so long as the article is not mostly based on these sources. 8/30 references are from insta/facebook/reddit, which is hardly "mostly", but you still need to be careful. On top of that, there are 2 YouTube videos cited. Not that this is a problem, I just need to double check on what the other sources say and if they are reliable too. The Sharpest Lives (the deadliest to lead) 23:30, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @SupremeLordBagel Apologies for the wait, I have been very busy and I hope this is of no inconvenience to you. I would like to say: the article looks excelent to me, but I am unsure whether it qualifies as a good article per the criteria. I am going to request a second opinion for feedback. Again, apologies for the wait and we'll see where this goes. – The Sharpest Lives (💬•✏️•ℹ️) 21:57, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer checklist[edit]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.
    a (reference section): b (inline citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

Second opinion from IanTEB[edit]

(this is my first time delivering a second opinion so I apologize if anything is weird). Since the original reviewer hasn't given a specific issue to check for, I'll look over the article and give any comments I have.

Background and development

  • I would try to paraphrase more in the first paragraph; I can give specific pointers if you would like
  • "Of the split, Foster said" - I would change Foster to "frontman Mark Foster"  Done
  • I think the second paragraph is very good!

Release and promotion

  • These sections should be placed after composition  Done
  • I would specify the exact release date within "The EP was released the following month"  Done
  • I would also specify that the Wiltern Theatre shows were in December  Done

Composition and songs

  • Link Julia Garner  Done
  • "when Isom Innis" - "when keyboardist Isom Innis"  Done
  • Link trip-hop  Done

Critical reception

  • The Daily Californian should be italicized in the Music ratings template  Done

Lead and infobox

  • The release sentence should be moved to right after the first sentence.  Done
  • Assuming that at least a few sources in the body use the abbreviation, citations aren't required for In the Darkest of Nights. If no secondary source uses it, I would remove it  Done
  • This lead should be expanded; there's no content about the title/artwork or critical reception, despite both having sections in the body
  • The lead says that multiple songs revolve around Foster and his wife, but the body only mentions one such track
  • "It produced three singles" is maybe a bit inaccurate since they were are released before the EP. Maybe "it was promoted with three singles" is better?  Done
  • Mark Pontius should be mentioned in the body

This is a very surface-level opinion, but if all is fixed I think the reviewer should be able to make a decision on the article. I would like to ask, though, was a spotcheck performed? If not, I would advise doing so; just checking around three sources per section is usually enough for GA. IanTEB (talk) 10:30, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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