This article is within the scope of WikiProject Organizations, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Organizations on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.OrganizationsWikipedia:WikiProject OrganizationsTemplate:WikiProject Organizationsorganization articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject United Kingdom, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the United Kingdom on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.United KingdomWikipedia:WikiProject United KingdomTemplate:WikiProject United KingdomUnited Kingdom articles
This article is of interest to WikiProject LGBT studies, which tries to ensure comprehensive and factual coverage of all LGBT-related issues on Wikipedia. For more information, or to get involved, please visit the project page or contribute to the discussion.LGBT studiesWikipedia:WikiProject LGBT studiesTemplate:WikiProject LGBT studiesLGBT articles
In History and advocacy the section begins, "The IFTCC is led by Mike Davidson, who describes himself as "ex-homosexual",". How is this acceptable? If Mike Davidson identifies as an ex-homosexual, then that is how people should refer to him, just as we are expected to refer to people by their self identified sexual orientation or gender. It shows bias and phobia to say he "describes himself as "ex-homosexual". Scottca075 (talk) 18:22, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That's a good question, perhaps one that requires larger community discussion at WP:NPOVN. The simplest reasoning I can give you is based on WP:FRINGE. The ex-gay movement is based on saying you were a gay person, but then stopped being gay, ie claiming your sexual orientation can change (which medical consensus disagrees with, finding sexual orientation to be immutable). There's a difference between "I thought I was gay, then realized I was straight/bi", with your underlying sexual attraction not changing but just how you label it, and "I was gay, and have since been cured of my homosexuality", indicating your sexuality can change. AFAICT, nowhere in the encylcopedia do we say people "are ex-gay" in wikivoice. TheTranarchist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 18:37, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
