Talk:Into the Dark (TV series)
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Episodes
[edit]I know that there are some articles that discuss each episode, but some are left blank. I just want to give a heads up I plan on working on the page regarding episode 8, "All That We Destroy". (talk)
Cast and characters
[edit]I left a summary that adequately explained the edit, which was a lot more than your "format". The cast is not supposed to go into the episode list, but into the cast section above it. To keep the list from getting out of hand, not everyone who appears in the episode needs to be listed. Do we really need to know who the man in the bathroom or the bubblegum girl were? Ryan8374 (talk) 06:07, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Ryan8374: Let's discuss this at the correct venue. I too left a summary that adequately explained the edit: the cast were moved deliberately to the episode tables, because by September next year, we're going to end up with a massive twelve separate lists in the cast section. Can you provide a policy or guideline that supports "the cast is not supposed to go into the episode list"? Take a look at List of Black Mirror episodes - that article too has the starring cast in the episode list; however, it doesn't have the guest cast, as each episode has its own separate article. So, if "not everyone who appears in the episode needs to be listed", then we don't need to include the guest cast in the episode list either. Speaking of which, you didn't even move it to a list, you full-on deleted all of them, a very disruptive move. -- AlexTW 06:16, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
- @AlexTheWhovian: The discussion really should have started here instead of sending a canned message to my page. The reference to your summary of "format" was in regards to your edit on 11/25. It didn't explain anything. Template:Episode list specifies what goes into the table. MOS:TVCAST describes the placement of cast information. You know all of this, probably better than I. There's nothing that explicitly forbids the cast being listed in the summary (except for MOS:TVPLOT suggesting that actors' names be avoided), but you've been around a while, and as such are likely aware that there have been shows, none of which I can currently recall, that have had cast removed from the summaries because that's not where it goes. I knew nothing of Black Mirror, but the format looks decent. Of course, it's not listing a dozen different people per episode. There aren't any main characters in this series, so who's considered to be a guest? I think the episodes' main characters will do fine. Yes, I deleted the content instead of moving it as I was being lazy and seem to recall from a policy somewhere that an editor is not required to reformat/rewrite data in order to correct something. Hell...for all anyone knows, I could have been working on it when someone 12 minutes later had already done it. Ryan8374 (talk) 08:04, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, it should have started here, that's why I moved it here. My apologies for not making my initial edits clear, I hope they are now. I do know all of that, quoting it often, but documentation and the Manual of Style boil down to generic guidelines that wrap up most situations, but every article may have unique circumstances that need taking into consideration - this example is Exhibit A for that. Black Mirror's listings aren't detailing a dozen different people because, as I've already said, it doesn't have the guest cast since each episode has its own separate article where the guest cast can be listed. If you want to create episode articles for this series, by all means. Concerning that last bit... Four years here and I've never come across such a policy. In fact, read WP:IMPROVEDONTREMOVE, an actual site policy:
Instead of removing article content that is poorly presented, consider cleaning up the writing, formatting or sourcing on the spot, or tagging it as necessary.
Just deleting content without reason can therefore be considered deliberately disruptive. -- AlexTW 00:53, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, it should have started here, that's why I moved it here. My apologies for not making my initial edits clear, I hope they are now. I do know all of that, quoting it often, but documentation and the Manual of Style boil down to generic guidelines that wrap up most situations, but every article may have unique circumstances that need taking into consideration - this example is Exhibit A for that. Black Mirror's listings aren't detailing a dozen different people because, as I've already said, it doesn't have the guest cast since each episode has its own separate article where the guest cast can be listed. If you want to create episode articles for this series, by all means. Concerning that last bit... Four years here and I've never come across such a policy. In fact, read WP:IMPROVEDONTREMOVE, an actual site policy:
- @AlexTheWhovian: The discussion really should have started here instead of sending a canned message to my page. The reference to your summary of "format" was in regards to your edit on 11/25. It didn't explain anything. Template:Episode list specifies what goes into the table. MOS:TVCAST describes the placement of cast information. You know all of this, probably better than I. There's nothing that explicitly forbids the cast being listed in the summary (except for MOS:TVPLOT suggesting that actors' names be avoided), but you've been around a while, and as such are likely aware that there have been shows, none of which I can currently recall, that have had cast removed from the summaries because that's not where it goes. I knew nothing of Black Mirror, but the format looks decent. Of course, it's not listing a dozen different people per episode. There aren't any main characters in this series, so who's considered to be a guest? I think the episodes' main characters will do fine. Yes, I deleted the content instead of moving it as I was being lazy and seem to recall from a policy somewhere that an editor is not required to reformat/rewrite data in order to correct something. Hell...for all anyone knows, I could have been working on it when someone 12 minutes later had already done it. Ryan8374 (talk) 08:04, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
Infobox content
[edit]BoogerD, can you please explain the recent mass removal of content from the infobox? -- AlexTW 07:51, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- I removed the composers from the Infobox as they vary from episode to episode as do the executive producers, producers, editors and cinematographers. Those who were left in the infobox were credited in all three episodes. It seemed to make little sense to include those only credited in one episode in the infobox as the box will get far, far too large by the time all 12 episodes have been released. – BoogerD (talk) 07:55, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- Makes sense. I wasn't aware that they differed. Thanks for creating the separate articles! -- AlexTW 08:01, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- No problem! It was quite a job but I think they turned out pretty well. – BoogerD (talk) 08:03, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- Makes sense. I wasn't aware that they differed. Thanks for creating the separate articles! -- AlexTW 08:01, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
Episode article links
[edit]- Season 1
- The Body (Into the Dark)
- Flesh & Blood (Into the Dark)
- Pooka!
- New Year, New You
- Down (Into the Dark)
- Treehouse (Into the Dark)
- I'm Just F*cking with You
- All That We Destroy
- They Come Knocking
- Culture Shock (Into the Dark)
- School Spirit (Into the Dark)
- Pure (Into the Dark)
- Season 2
- Uncanny Annie
- Pilgrim (Into the Dark)
- A Nasty Piece of Work
- Midnight Kiss (Into the Dark)
- My Valentine (Into the Dark)
- Crawlers (Into the Dark)
- Pooka Lives
- Delivered (Into the Dark)
- Good Boy (Into the Dark)
- The Current Occupant
- Tentacles (Into the Dark)
- Blood Moon (Into the Dark)
-- /Alex/21 00:19, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
Shared Universe?
[edit]Are all the episodes of Into the Dark set in the same Universe?
(161.29.246.205 (talk) 22:54, 22 February 2021 (UTC))
- This is an anthology series. Whether or not the episodes are part of the same universe is irrelevant; the episodes are separate from each other, unless sourced otherwise. -- /Alex/21 06:04, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Alex 21: Irrelevant to what? It was a yes-or-no question. Valid answers are "yes" (with evidence), "no" (with evidence), "conflicting evidence" (with evidence to show the conflict) or "insufficient evidence" (with evidence that someone has actually looked into it and couldn't find enough evidence.) Or, if no one has looked into it, and no one has any evidence either way, then there is nothing to say: so any attempt to assert an answer comes across as disingenuous at best. Within horror anthologies, there is certainly precedent for all parts taking place in the same universe, so your implication that the default is "not the same universe" is a little suspect.
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