Talk:Iron Arrow Honor Society/Archive 1

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Donna Shalala went to Miami University as an undergraduate, not the University of Miami. She obviously was not "tapped" when she was an undergraduate. This suggests that she is probably an "honorary member" instead of a "regular member".

Since this is all secret, how can we verify the truth of the factual assertions made in the article? Please see: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Der Hexenkreis Racepacket (talk) 04:51, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

The Iron Arrow Honor Society Supreme Court case was a very important one. The organization is the highest honor of the university and certainly on par, or even more notable, than the campus newspaper and radio station. I am removing the Shalala listing, since I believe it is an honorary one. MiamiDolphins3 (talk) 02:16, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
If I recall, she was tapped alongside a few professors of mine a couple of years ago. She is no longer an honorary member last I checked.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 03:47, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Donna Shalala was tapped as an administrator of the University. Staff/Faculty/Admin are eligible to be tapped after working for 5 years at the University. Every President of the University is Iron Arrow's official Sponsor. She is not an honorary member, therefore she should remain

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I've removed these per common sense and general ignoring all rules. It should be common sense that they're back on campus, that no one knows what is going on so it has to be alleged, and the patchwork jackets are used on this page and their official one.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 08:54, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

This article needs to be tightened up and more carefully supported. The citations do not support the statements for which they are offered. As I read it, the organization is now open to staff as well as faculty. Racepacket (talk) 09:26, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Well that is what happens.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 09:29, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Not A Secret Society

I think that this article should not be listed as a secret society but rather as an honor society. Previous versions of this article have the described the group as highly secretive, however they have a very public website. Their website, which is linked this article, updates the public on their events, shows images of people within society, includes a store, lists the contact information for the group, has a calendar listing their events, lists the new members who have been inducted, and even includes a link to a nomination form where one can nominate an individual to be inducted into the society. All of this public information completely contradicts the notion that this group is a secret society. NT1952 (talk) 19:12, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

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Moving this comment from reference section

Zaxe13 placed this comment in the reference section on the page. It is more appropriate here:

A previous version of this page indicated that Gloria Estefan and Alex Pinelas were members of the organization. A visit to the public record of members of the organization at the University of Miami's Ashe Administration building on November 17, 2014 indicated that this information was incorrect. The "Prominent Members" section of the page has been updated to reflect this. MiamiDolphins3 (talk) 18:25, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

  • While I always try to assume good faith - these Zaxe13 edits are problematic on several levels. The explanation given violates the no original research policy. But the fact that no proof was provided, also means the edits fail WP:BURDEN. But of greater concern, is the fact that even a cursory Google search would have uncovered links to several reliable sources which conclusively prove that both Gloria Estefan and Alex Penelas are members of this organization.
But add to all that, the fact that this editor has only edited on this article, and has been trying to remove Alex Penelas from it since 2011. This begs the question: if these aren't just the latest edits from a one topic editor, (and possibly a sock), pursuing an agenda. X4n6 (talk) 05:53, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
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