Talk:Iry-Hor

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Needed articles.

We should have an article on every pyramid and every nome in Ancient Egypt. I'm sure the rest of us can think of other articles we should have.

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Standardize the Chronology.

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Data sorting.

This is a project I'd like to take on some day, & could be applied to more of Wikipedia than just Ancient Egypt. Take one of the standard authorities of history or culture -- Herotodus, the Elder Pliny, the writings of Breasted or Kenneth Kitchen, & see if you can't smoothly merge quotations or information into relevant articles. Probably a good exercise for someone who owns one of those impressive texts, yet can't get access to a research library.

Today's XKCD comic has a mouseover message that says that Iry-Hor is the earliest human being known by name. Googling I found some online "ask questions" pages that mentioned him as either the earliest such person or one of a few contenders for said title. I'd like to change the sentence in the lead to "Iry-Hor is the earliest ruler of Egypt, and one of the earliest human beings, known by name." However, nothing I found would constitute a reliable source. Anyone have anything that would? (Of course, if you've got something that shows the idea to be wrong, post that here.) Brettalan (talk) 17:09, 14 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Highly uncertain. I'm not even convinced that he is the first Egyptian known by name. See this German list of Pharaohs for some other good candidates: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Pharaonen There's also a bunch of Proto-cuneiform administrative accounts from the late Uruk-period (roughly the same era as these pre-dynastic kings of Egypt) which mention the names of the persons doing business, but also the names of sold slaves etc.--WANAX (talk) 21:33, 14 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]