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Copyright Violation[edit]

This article was copied fron this site:

http://www.missionislam.com/knowledge/japan.htm

PMLF 06:07, 26 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mission Islam note[edit]

From their home page: As far as non-copyrighted material hosted at this site is concerned, you are not only allowed, but in fact are strongly encouraged to copy, print and otherwise reproduce and distribute articles to teach others about Islam, as widely as possible. We believe that ALL Islamic Knowledge is the Property of Allah, and as such it is our duty, as Muslims to make that knowledge widely available as a resource.

This is from their homepage, look at the bottom of the page. Luka Jačov 17:56, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This website has been suspended.Fletcherbrian (talk) 13:37, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

removed this text as it is without context of time, and otherwise irrelevant[edit]

["In the coming few years there should be substantial developments for Islam in Japan," says Nur Ad-Din Mori. "If not, then we cannot really speak of the future of Islam in this country." Mori maintains it is a turning point now because of the relatively recent return of five young Muslims to Japan after completing their studies on Islam in Arab countries. Two graduated from the Umm al-Qura University, Mecca, one from Islamic University, Madinah, one from the Dawa College, Tripoli, and the last from Qatar University. Though the number may not seem very impressive it is a significant increase in the Japanese scene where, before these five, only six students graduated from universities in Arab countries during the last twenty years, with three of them majoring in Arabic, not Islamic, studies.

Mori, who studied theology and general Islamic studies in Mecca, is one of the recent five: he confirms their responsibilities." Islam is a religion of knowledge and we cannot stand well without learning. I think the efforts and activities made in this respect in Japan remain very minor up to this day."

Mori's pronouncement also refers to another problem in Japan: there have been few who can teach Islam to the indigenous people in their own language. The history of Dawa in Japan for the past forty years has basically been that of efforts by foreign Muslims who happened to stay here in this mainly Buddhist country.] Naerhu 02:40, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This article isn't even CLOSE to being neutral[edit]

The author obviously seems to think that Japan NEEDS to convert to Islam, that it is somehow an important goal for the nation. Wikipedia is hardly the place for such religious preaching.

Also, much of the language used in the article is far from neutral and seems to show that Islam is the "smart" thing to do.

Honestly, I don't see any value in the article at all aside from a stat here and there. I think the article should be scrapped.

Probably needs to be rewritten, anyway. Not particularly NPOV. It doesn't seem to be a particularly "important" religion in Japanese society, but I guess more sources are needed. 惑乱 分からん 21:25, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

| For example, this is a quote from the article. The problem is perhaps being felt in more acute terms for Muslim children who, in the absence of any Muslim kindergartens or schools constitute indeed easy targets for the transmission and cultivation of unIslamic cultural and social habits. Now that is unabashedly POV. Immigrants need to assimilate into the cultures/societies they enter. Period. That is pov too, but like the above quote it does not belong in an encyclopedic article. This article needs to be rewritten.


I did some editing, but since the original article was taken from a muslim missionary site it's still highly POV. Other parts sound anecdotally and need better references. I also edited out some contradictions (one paragraph was talking about "a few thousand" adherents, the next about "hundred thousands".) Still much work to be done. I will try to make some own researches in the future. Azami213 5 August 2006

Mosques[edit]

The statement that there is only 1 mosque in Japan is incorrect. There is a large mosque in Yoyogi district of Tokyo, for example.

There are quite a few mosques dotted all over Japan but obviously more-so in the larger cities. The first one built in in Kobe, which has historically been the most open to foreigners with trade etc. The old Kobe mosque is located in the old foreign quarter where church(es) and a mosque still remain part of the international style architecture in the area.

Dubious statement[edit]

This particular statement sounds rather dubious, especially since it isn't backed up with any references:

["Beside numerous sincere conversions to Islam at the time, there were also mass conversions of several tens of thousands of people"]

And as PMLF already pointed out, this article was copied from a Muslim missionairy website, so we can hardly expect the original article and its statements to be objective.

Therefore, I suggest that we delete this statement until someone can provide proper evidence about these alleged mass-conversions.

.. And another thing I'd like to point out: among the links in the article is a link to a YouTube video about a Japanese woman converting to Islam.

Now then, conversion stories like these have very little informative value, since they are about personal (and thus subjective) convictions and beliefs, and not about objective information about the Muslim community in Japan.

Furthermore, aside from not providing objective information, such conversion stories are usually just about pointing out why one religion would be so much better than all the others - i.e. religious preaching.

And as has been pointed out earlier, Wikipedia is not the place for religious preaching. 75-Rolf 23:50, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just a footnote; I have removed the link to the video for reasons already mentioned. 75-Rolf 00:15, 30 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That was old news bro listen today's news how many muslims are in Japan 103.163.171.205 (talk) 17:19, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Did General Cleanup in the "Education" Section[edit]

I just did a pretty extensive edit of the section, cleaning up the writing in general and tagging statements that need citations. I've also cut out the pervasive POV. The only significant deletion I've made is of the following sentences:

Because of poor distribution, even translations of the meanings of Qur'an into Japanese language are not publicly available. Islamic literature is virtually absent from bookstores or public libraries to the exception of few English-written essays and books that are sold at relatively high prices.

I have very strong doubts about this claim. The Qur'an has been available in translation in Japanese for quite a while now, and there is an active Islamic Studies community at most major universities. In fact, a quick look at Amazon.co.jp shows up almost 3 pages of results for just the Qur'an, and a search for "Islam" under "Japanese books" brings up 1,336 results. If the editor who made the statement originally meant access to Arabic material, or the absence of books on Islamic studies or theology from local mom-and-pop bookstores, then that needs to be explicitly stated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wintersmith (talk • contribs) 03:01, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

To 1945[edit]

Atrocias as is! Lacks mention of political/secret service aspects of pre-war Islam. The first haji was a convert for political purposes. There existed a state sponsored "Dai Nippon Kaikyo Kyokai" (Greater Japan Muslim League). The 'Nanzan Guide to japanese Religion' (ISBN 978-0-8248-3002-1 mentiones "1974: founding of Japan Islam Federation (no jap. name)."

Suggested sources for improvement:

--194.95.59.130 (talk) 12:25, 6 December 2007 (UTC) (Currently preparing a German wikipedia bit on Islam in Japan)[reply]

Started on cleaning up the pre-war section. Comments @[zenwort] --194.95.59.130 (talk) 13:29, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Etymology[edit]

I gather that Kaikyō is Japanese for Islam. It's obviously no loan from Arabic. Could you provide an etymology? Is it a Japanese reading of a Chinese word? Thank you. --Error (talk) 15:25, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Kaikyo translates to Strait as in a body of water — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:304:CFD0:DED0:7195:B40D:DB29:994 (talk) 08:39, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Earliest muslim contact with Japan was in 1555[edit]

An Arab Muslim arrived in Japan via a Portuguese ship in 1555 and actively tried to convert the Japanese to Islam.

http://books.google.com/books?id=0x1Io6VOuAIC&pg=PA518#v=onepage&q&f=false

Rajmaan (talk) 21:00, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of apparent expression of WP:OR editorial WP:POV[edit]

In this edit, I've removed the clause following the comma from a sentence reading, "However, essayist Michael Penn states that 90% of Muslims are foreign and about 10% are ethnic, but the true figure is unknown and this is just another speculative estimate." At the end of the sentence is a citation of this article by Penn (I've fixed a dead link to that), where the claim is made. The argument against the claim is apparently WP:OR editorial WP:POV. It has been in the article since this December 28, 2008 edit which copied it here from the Religion in Japan article. It was removed from that other article by this February 28, 2013 edit (saying "Let's not indulge in speculation"). I haven't tried to track it back further than that. If there are sources other than the one cited which argue the numbers, this should be handled according to WP:DUE, not by WP:EWing. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 02:38, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Does the article talk about how the censusing data was gathered? The percentages seem really radical, but that's just my view. It does make sense, though, for in Japan it would be less common to find a Muslim native. I'm sure that Penn's article (thanks for fixing the dead link) goes into more detail. It's also a little old. Maybe we could find an article referring to the statistical data from more recently than 2008 - 6 years ago. How often does Japan run its census? Usually it's every 4 or 5 years, I believe, for other countries? I'll start trying to look farther back as well and see if we can back up the side that argues the numbers. If we find contention, however, we'll have to go even further and look towards finding support for the negation of the current support. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Complete turing (talk • contribs) 02:50, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Islam allegedly banned in Japan?[edit]

I dislike and do not back right wing politics. However. Here's a link that indicates Islam is vigorously suppressed in Japan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fletcherbrian (talk • contribs) 13:43, 17 October 2014 (UTC) apologies for not signing the aboveFletcherbrian (talk) 23:54, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:RS. Also see [1], etc. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 02:17, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There has been a rise in anti-Islamic sentiment supposedly.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/muslims-japan-government-surveillance-im-not-surprised-islamophobia-a7113051.html

--Bellerophon5685 (talk) 03:59, 21 November 2016 (UTC) http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/17/viral-image/viral-graphic-says-japan-keeps-out-radical-islam-t/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:304:CFD0:DED0:7195:B40D:DB29:994 (talk) 08:41, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

rasict comment — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.170.86.132 (talk) 12:39, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Semi-protected edit request on 7 August 2021[edit]

103.163.171.201 (talk) 19:37, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This all news i edited is 100 percent true please don't delete

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Melmann 21:13, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The percentage of Islam in Japan (100 percent true)[edit]

currently there are more than 130 mosque and the percentage of muslims in Japan is 0.5 percentage. according to tanada hirofumi the number will reach near 330,000 during end of 2021. 103.163.171.201 (talk) 19:40, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 8 August 2021[edit]

True research 3444558r443033034484445465 (talk) 13:36, 8 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Wikipedia, I want to edit this article. I found a japanese website and they said the percentage of muslim in japan is 0.5%. According to Tanada Hirofumi of waseda university he said the number of muslim in Japan will reach near 330,000 durning end if 2021. This news are 100% real please edit this article.

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:34, 8 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I want to know how many people in Japan living in Japan nowadays?[edit]

hello friends, I want to know how many muslims are living in Japan 2021? 103.163.171.200 (talk) 19:00, 14 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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