Talk:Islam in the United States/Infobox

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Welcome[edit]

The purpose of this page is to achieve consensus in selecting images of American Muslims to feature in the Infobox for Islam in the United States. As a reminder:

Be polite.
Assume good faith.
Maintain a neutral point of view.
Use verifiable information.

And thanks for your contributions. — ℜob C. alias ÀLAROB 20:46, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Format issues[edit]

This heading is for questions about the format of the infobox image or images. — ℜob C. alias ÀLAROB 20:46, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Should we use (A) a single compound image without names, or (B) a table of small images with linked names?[edit]

Standards for inclusion/exclusion[edit]

This heading is for general principles about how to select and prioritize people. — ℜob C. alias ÀLAROB 20:46, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

How do we define "Muslim"?[edit]

Wikipedia requires a neutral point of view. So it would be difficult to justify a ban on Muslims from minority sects, even if they are accused of heresy. Shia Muslims, Ahmadis, Nation of Islam, Nizari ismailis, Sufis — all can be included, as long as the individual is notable. I would argue that at a minimum, both Sunnis and Shias should always be represented in the infobox.

On an individual level, we should consider how prominent a role Islam plays in a person's life. If someone reveres Islam and one or more other faiths, it might be problematic to call them "Muslim." — ℜob C. alias ÀLAROB 21:22, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, and my test is the religion even mentioned in any notable way on their Wikipedia bio. Clear cut examples Malcolm X, Muhammad Ali, Where Islam is very key to their lives. Because we are showing examples of Islam in America. This should then rule out people with one or no mention of their faith, and obviously nominal Muslims. Point being there are so many Muslims in America why pick someone that is nominal? --Inayity (talk) 08:00, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

How do we define "American"?[edit]

For example, Ingrid Mattson was president of the Islamic Society of North America, but she is a citizen of Canada.

Must a Muslim be a citizen of the United States, or residing in the United States, in order to be included in the infobox? — ℜob C. alias ÀLAROB 21:22, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Individuals[edit]

This heading is for discussing individual people (portraits) to include or exclude. — ℜob C. alias ÀLAROB 20:46, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion to avoid future edit wars[edit]

I suggest that we place a notice on the image box, that no changes can be made without consensus. Any major changes that subvert the Talk Page will be reverted. Because I have noticed that very few of those people causing the edit war have any interest in Talk Page, now that the article is locked. --Inayity (talk) 08:28, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please say more about that. How would a notice be put on the image box? — ℜob C. alias ÀLAROB 00:52, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Like this (see hidden message) --Inayity (talk) 06:11, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]