Talk:Issues in the 2016 United Kingdom European Union membership referendum

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Title[edit]

Should this article be titled "Issues in the United Kingdom European Union membership referendum, 2016"? Existing issues articles omit the definite article when they are about a subject, such as Issues in anarchism. In the case of events, however, the definite article seems to be present, as in Issues in the Canadian federal election, 2006. Polly Tunnel (talk) 09:44, 12 April 2016 (UTC)  Done[reply]

Turkish Membership of EU[edit]

I recommend this section is rewritten and retitled as Future enlargement of the European Union with a link to the main article to encompass the wider issue, rather than isolating the Turkish case as this is potentially biased. I will approach this tomorrow (16-May) absent any other comments. Adam.james870 (talk) 22:47, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This article says Turkey's EU membership is special partly because it is a Muslim nation (and its population is 77 million), and more than 200 million Syrian refugees reside in Turkey. Annihilation00 (talk) 21:40, 16 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
One BBC article doth not a trend make. And the existing article on Enlargement is impressively thorough and probably the best place to put this discussion? Adam.james870 (talk) 06:02, 17 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
There are many articles about Turkish membership of EU. The BBC article is one of them.Annihilation00 (talk) 00:44, 20 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sequence, inclusion, and due weight for issues[edit]

This page is starting to grow with random additions in all directions.

If a question we're trying to answer with this page is "What are/were the most important issues in the campaign?", then we need to ground that in some kind of external reliable input. So it would be useful to dig out (a) according to opinion polls, what are voters identifying as the key issues affecting their votes; (b) what are commentators identifying as the key issues being pushed by the campaigns.

From the polling side, here are some review pieces (just some I've seen, not a systematic search):

It would be useful to find some more examples. Jheald (talk) 09:29, 16 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

There is some good stuff here... http://whatukthinks.org/eu/ Adam.james870 (talk) 09:33, 16 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Good site, nice weekly review by John Curtice of the polls as they're coming in. "Immigration emerged as still the key issue for the Leave campaign, while the economy continues to be the main foundation underpinning support for Remain" (11 May) "Voters have become increasingly inclined to accept the Remain camp’s key argument that Britain’s economy would be worse off if we left the EU... but are also becoming increasingly convinced that immigration would be lower if Britain left the EU... when YouGov asked their respondents which mattered to them more, free trade or control of immigration, they divided more or less evenly down the middle." (29 April).
From the 11 May review, here are
Jheald (talk) 10:01, 16 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Also some older poll questions to expose issues, starting to go into the site's index of questions that have been asked:
In general it looks like the two most important issues to people are
  • Economic conditions and impact (including job security)
  • Perceived erosion of national culture (which leads to immigration and enlargement) with some tangential consideration on impact on local services by migrants
Adam.james870 (talk) 11:11, 16 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Another issues question in today's Ipsos/MORI poll, page 26. "Which, if any, issues do you think will be very important to you in helping you decide which way to vote?". (Fieldwork 14-16 May). Jheald (talk) 12:17, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comres for the ITN and the Daily Mail, page 17. "Which three of the following will be the most important to you in deciding which way to vote?" (Fieldwork 14-17 May) Jheald (talk) 23:51, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Article title[edit]

This article should be moved back to its old title - Issues in the United Kingdom European Union membership referendum, 2016. The article deals entirely with issues raised before the referendum. It does not cover the myriad of "Brexit issues" that have emerged since the referendum. So, the article title should reflect the fact that it only covers issues that emerged before June 2016, and the previous wording does that just fine. Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:32, 14 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support. The new title is seriously misleading, as the list of issues that have emerged since the referendum dwarfs those raised beforehand. In the meantime, I have added a sentence to the lead to clarify its scope. We probably should have an article about Brexit issues but this is not it, nor should it be. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 13:03, 14 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 18 February 2017[edit]

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The result of the move request was: page moved. (non-admin closure) TonyBallioni (talk) 17:37, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Brexit issues → Issues in the United Kingdom European Union membership referendum, 2016 – The article deals entirely with issues raised before the referendum. It does not cover the myriad of "Brexit issues" that have emerged since the referendum. So, the article title should reflect the fact that it only covers issues that emerged before June 2016, and the previous wording does that just fine. Ghmyrtle (talk) 14:18, 18 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support for reason stated above, but the article needs updating: now that the event has happened it is past history - see, e.g. "The economy and the number of jobs lost or gained by a withdrawal are likely to be dominant issues... The leave campaign argues... " Qexigator (talk) 17:20, 18 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support for reasons I gave in the preceding section. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 21:08, 19 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I never realised that it had been moved from its original title in the first place. Support for same reason as nominator. I've already tried cutting this article back, because editors add material unrelated to the referendum. I can't imagine how much worse it would be with such a general title. Jolly Ω Janner 07:30, 21 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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