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Requested move 3 October 2021

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not Moved, per discussion below. Station1 (talk) 02:33, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Italiani brava genteMyth of the good Italian – More easily recognizable and descriptive name and in English. When I first read the current title, Italiani brava gente, I didn't know what was this page about. "Myth of the good Italian" (with this capitalization) is used 237 times on Google Scholar, so it isn't a marginal name [1]. Super Ψ Dro 09:20, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

*Support per WP:USEENGLISH, catting the resulting redirect as {{R from other language|it|en}}. 85.67.32.244 (talk) 11:56, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

WP:USEENGLISH says it should generally be "the version of the name of the subject that is most common in the English language", not "in another language in English-language sources". I couldn't find it in any online English dictionary.
Also, at least one article says "the myth of the good Italian" with "Italiani brava gente" very close by, so you need to discount those. Subtract also results such as this one that are patently Italian, not English.85.67.32.244 (talk) 18:38, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
WP:USEENGLISH says "The title of an article should generally use the version of the name of the subject that is most common in the English language, as you would find it in reliable sources" (my emphasis). The wording could perhaps be clearer, but it doesn't mean anything other than WP:COMMONNAME. If you read the whole policy, it's clear that "use English" is a short-hand for "follow English language RSs": see in particular "If a particular name is widely used in English-language sources, then that name is generally the most appropriate, no matter what name is used by non-English sources." From the evidence I've seen so far, it seems clear that the current title is the one widely used in English-language sources. Havelock Jones (talk) 22:44, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.