Talk:Jacquotte Delahaye

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Source ?[edit]

Do we have any proof that this person ever existed ? If so, where is it ?Boulet rouge (talk) 16:16, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tout à fait d'accord. J'aimerais bien voir à quelle source cet article s'est abreuvé. Peut-on nous montrer un seul document probant pour l'existence de ce personnage ? J. de Cauna, historien. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.68.253.250 (talk) 16:33, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Haitian mother"[edit]

What does it mean that she had a "Haitian mother"? Was her mother a slave? A Creole woman born on the island? 2602:306:CFEA:170:2946:F65B:4319:83A8 (talk) 05:28, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Move to Fictional Pirate[edit]

The sources indicated seem pretty clear that this character is a fictional or legendary pirate, about as real as Long John Silver. Shouldn't this article make that clear and be added to these subjects: Fictional characters introduced in 1940 Fictional outlaws Fictional pirates — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dan Conlin (talk • contribs) 23:28, March 15, 2019 (UTC)

"Back from the Dead Red" + general fakeness[edit]

In an article already low on facts, this one seems especially implausible. She and her associates, assuming she existed, were Francophone! In general I am not impressed with the sourcing here - the first mention of her in Google Books is a whopping 300+ years after she supposedly lived, in a book that appears to be fiction. I strongly suspect this is a fictional person that various people have embellished over time. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 02:25, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The fact that she is a fictious person does not mean she should be deleted. Fictive people can be notable, and if she has attracted so much attention and have been seen as real, then she can be notable to be mentioned as such. The article should reflect that of course and clearly state that she is not a real person.--Aciram (talk) 21:44, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Of course we have articles on fictional people. I just don't think that she passes our notability guidelines, and I would venture to say that any source that treats her as a real person instead of identifying her as a fictional character created by a particular author should hold at least less weight if not be totally discounted on verifiability grounds. It seems relevant to me that a bunch of low-quality sources are obviously feeding not only off each other but off Wikipedia, embellishing as they go (eg. this "Back from the Dead Red" thing). –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 14:30, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Source for the flag?[edit]

What is the source for the flag (File:Jacquotte Delahaye flag.svg)? Seems hoaxy. Ping the creator, User:RootOfAllLight. If there is no reply I suggest removing this as a likely hoax. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:45, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As there is still no source, I've removed the image form our article and started a deletion on Commons: commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Jacquotte Delahaye flag.svg. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:08, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Attribution[edit]

Text and references copied from Jacquotte Delahaye to Joanna Benecke. See former article's history for a list of contributors. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:36, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Source of the story[edit]

Sources cited in the Wikipedia article confirm that "stories of her exploits are attributed to oral storytelling and Leon Treich, a French fiction writer of the 1940s." Does anyone know which of his works was implicated? 7&6=thirteen (☎) 21:46, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@7&6=thirteen Good question. This may be discussed and answered, if we are lucky, in this 1984 French book but snippet view in French is beyond my ability to interpret. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:11, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]